Vinod Khosla with Sam Altman on How to Build the Future [video]

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 9:01 PM UTC

writepub wrote: post #49

jhayward wrote: post #34

There are several comments here about Khosla and his efforts to convert public right of way to private property on the California Coast. It's fair to ask, "why is this relevant to a video of his views on the future (tech)?" It's relevant because the beach controversy shows that the future that Kohsla wants to create is inimicable to the future that I want to see. He sees a big-L libertarian future, where the strong e…

X's viewpoint on Y needn't have any logical correlation/causation on X's viewpoint on Z, assuming Y & Z are orthogonal and independent. It is fair to criticize Khosla on beach access, but his investment record is self explanatory for his opinions on tech to be worthy of an audience. If you believe otherwise, you may also believe boycotting [YC, HN] to be valid and fair, for giving Khosla a platform, and accepting fun…

Post by dqpb » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 9:06 PM UTC

unknownkadath wrote: post #35

dqpb wrote: post #12

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I think blaming the victim is cruel in the case where the victim is powerless to defend themselves. But in the case where the victim simply failed to defend and fight for themselves I think it's important to criticize them.

In what way have the victims failed to fight for themselves? The beach access issue is kind of a thing all up and down the California coast.

Post by iaabtpbtpnn » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 9:22 PM UTC

beatpanda wrote: post #51

evancharles wrote: post #48

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I'm weary of getting into this, but I don't think that's the right conclusion from the beach issue. I'm not intimately familiar but if you care about it, I'd recommend reading what he wrote about it. https://medium.com/@vkhosla/martins-beach-a-matter-of-princi... (I work at Khosla Ventures and have raised money from Khosla in the past)

Here's a more recent status update from the other side of this dispute: https://www.surfrider.org/coastal-blog/entry/whats-next-for-... The Supreme Court refused to take up Khosla's most recent appeal, leaving in place the requirement that he leave the gate open to the access road to Martin's Beach. It will be interesting to see what Khosla does now, given that he has exhausted his appeals in the court system.

Post by joejerryronnie » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 9:25 PM UTC

iaabtpbtpnn wrote: post #56

beatpanda wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a more recent status update from the other side of this dispute: https://www.surfrider.org/coastal-blog/entry/whats-next-for-... The Supreme Court refused to take up Khosla's most recent appeal, leaving in place the requirement that he leave the gate open to the access road to Martin's Beach. It will be interesting to see what Khosla does now, given that he has exhausted his appeals in the court system.

He claims he'll litigate for the rest of his life. I suspect he'll keep finding new ways to refuse to comply, each time getting a type of citation that is different from the others based on the letter of the law (though not its spirit), and appeal each one as far as it'll go.

Post by jlarocco » Wed, Jan 09, 2019, 10:22 PM UTC

iaabtpbtpnn wrote: post #56

beatpanda wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a more recent status update from the other side of this dispute: https://www.surfrider.org/coastal-blog/entry/whats-next-for-... The Supreme Court refused to take up Khosla's most recent appeal, leaving in place the requirement that he leave the gate open to the access road to Martin's Beach. It will be interesting to see what Khosla does now, given that he has exhausted his appeals in the court system.

He claims he'll litigate for the rest of his life. I suspect he'll keep finding new ways to refuse to comply, each time getting a type of citation that is different from the others based on the letter of the law (though not its spirit), and appeal each one as far as it'll go.