Tilt – Local Kubernetes development with no stress

Post by shaklee3 » Sun, Jan 06, 2019, 12:56 AM UTC

metzby wrote: post #41

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Hi! Thanks for checking in on HN. I'm very interested in k8s productivity but had some trouble understanding what Tilt is actually doing--is it a replacement for minikube, hosted kubernetes, etc.? Is there an architecture diagram that shows what runs where?

There isn't an architecture diagram, and there should be. Thanks. Tilt replaces `docker build && kubectl apply` or `docker-compose`. It watches your files, updates automatically, and gives you a UI that shows you error so you don't have to spelunk with kubectl. It uses minikube or docker-for-desktop or a cloud k8s cluster (AKS, EKS, GKE, whatever). It's like skaffold or draft or garden. Does that help?

Post by hodgesrm » Sun, Jan 06, 2019, 1:24 AM UTC

metzby wrote: post #41

hodgesrm wrote: post #40

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Hi! Thanks for checking in on HN. I'm very interested in k8s productivity but had some trouble understanding what Tilt is actually doing--is it a replacement for minikube, hosted kubernetes, etc.? Is there an architecture diagram that shows what runs where?

There isn't an architecture diagram, and there should be. Thanks. Tilt replaces `docker build && kubectl apply` or `docker-compose`. It watches your files, updates automatically, and gives you a UI that shows you error so you don't have to spelunk with kubectl. It uses minikube or docker-for-desktop or a cloud k8s cluster (AKS, EKS, GKE, whatever). It's like skaffold or draft or garden. Does that help?

Post by q3k » Sun, Jan 06, 2019, 1:45 AM UTC

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YAML, especially how it's used in k8s, is terrible. Writing it by hand is mind-numbingly toilful and extremely error prone, and templating YAML with Go (like Helm does) is a travesty. The most sensible approach I've seen is to use jsonnet+kubecfg. This lets me use a somewhat sane, composable, turing complete language that spits out a tree of k8s objects. I can use as much or little repeated definitions (or abstractio…

I don't see how Starlark is better... Does it validate what you write somehow - in a way that couldn't be done by validating a YAML?

Post by metzby » Sun, Jan 06, 2019, 2:12 AM UTC

shaklee3 wrote: post #51

metzby wrote: post #41

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There isn't an architecture diagram, and there should be. Thanks. Tilt replaces `docker build && kubectl apply` or `docker-compose`. It watches your files, updates automatically, and gives you a UI that shows you error so you don't have to spelunk with kubectl. It uses minikube or docker-for-desktop or a cloud k8s cluster (AKS, EKS, GKE, whatever). It's like skaffold or draft or garden. Does that help?

Can you explain how it's different from skaffold? I use that heavily.

Post by puzzle » Sun, Jan 06, 2019, 3:58 AM UTC

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Hey, I'm CEO of Tilt. Thanks for the feedback. The problem this solves is that distsys devs don't get enough feedback. You say you use docker-compose. Compared to docker-compose, Tilt has two advantages: 1) It updates the services as you edit them 2) Its UI makes it easy to see where errors are occurring, without you having to play 20 questions on the command-line or worry about things scrolling off-screen. The Tiltf…

> There is a landing page at https://tilt.build which has more of the "why Tilt". As a tangential by-the-way, I notice you're based in NYC. Of interest, Googlers working on Knative Build (hi Jason!) and Pivots working on Cloud Native Buildpacks (including me) are based in NYC also.