I really don't understand why anyone is paying $1000+ for a phone when you can get really amazing phones for $300.
I don't understand why anyone is paying $1000+ for a camera which doesn't make telephone calls.
Apple Priced Itself Out of Shrinking Chinese Smartphone Market
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You could apply the same question to pretty much every consumer product on Earth. The answer is a critical function of marketing.
I've been buying/using iPhones since 2009. The last iPhone I bought was a 7+. Right after that I had sensed that Apple is messing around with us on the CPU thing, and it finally came out that they did. I now have a Honor X8, I am super content about this, it cost me 229 pounds, takes 2 SIM cards and a 128GB SD card. I can also have a firewall NoRoot Firewall), more granular privacy controls, I can root and and replac…
But this really isn't the question. People "overpay" for luxury goods all the time in lieu of higher quality cheaper products.
Selling expensive stuff doesn't necessarily mean you have to or should have the best stuff.
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#53That's part of it, but the bigger issue is China is rapidly slowing down. Otherwise Apple would be seeing shrinking sales in other regions, which according to Cook has not been the case. WSJ today posted this alarming chart of Chinese consumption-tax revenue: https://i.imgur.com/2LzUKrz.png https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-economic-downturn-takes-...
Here's an outline link for that WSJ article: https://outline.com/tH8sWn
And here's the passage that describes what goods are affected by that consumption tax:
> Consumption tax in China is imposed on luxury goods such as high-end cosmetics and jewelry, and items deemed environmentally unfriendly, like cars and gasoline.
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#54People aren't going to buy a $850 apple when they can get a $300-400 (equivalent in Yuan) oppo or xiaomi that is very near top end flagship Android specs.
https://gadgetmatch.com/apple-samsung-huawei-global-smartpho...
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In China, or elsewhere? What in the US is as good as iPhone (including the screen size and storage size at that price point) for under $800? A lot of phone have roughly comparable specs, but the camera and overall software behavior is not comparable on lower-tier phones.
I don't question that the super expensive phones are better than the cheap ones but they are better in ways that are so insignificant to the average person. I got a nexus 5x a few years ago for about $250 and it does everything modern phones do. Yes I have slightly less pixels in my selfie and my screen is still rectangle shaped but is that really worth the extra $800? I suspect its simply a fashion/trend thing pushe…
This idea that anyone who isn't buying some cheap Android phone is doing it for fashion/trend reasons is ridiculous, insulting and condescending.
The fact is that I care about my privacy and security and only Apple seems to take it seriously. They also support their devices for years so I look at it like its an investment. That is easily worth the extra $10 or $20 a month I pay for my mobile phone plan.
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It's possible that many people in China can't even afford that. Back when the newest iPhone model was $650 I assume the N-2 model was priced even lower than $550.
Sure, but that is a different explanation than the demand for the new models is down, which is what one of the major narrative's seems to be over the last 24 hours.
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#57Apple is losing it's innovation edge as well. Current flagship phone cycles in China are faster than Apple's -- triple, quad cameras, in-screen fingerprint readers, articulating selfie-cams, pinhole selfie screens, and a much better storage proposition (much more NAND for the price in almost every Chinese Android flagship).
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
In China, or elsewhere? What in the US is as good as iPhone (including the screen size and storage size at that price point) for under $800? A lot of phone have roughly comparable specs, but the camera and overall software behavior is not comparable on lower-tier phones.
I don't question that the super expensive phones are better than the cheap ones but they are better in ways that are so insignificant to the average person. I got a nexus 5x a few years ago for about $250 and it does everything modern phones do. Yes I have slightly less pixels in my selfie and my screen is still rectangle shaped but is that really worth the extra $800? I suspect its simply a fashion/trend thing pushe…
What about cars? Are you proclaiming that everyone should drive a Corolla? Or that everyone should drive whatever it is that you personally drive?
Who are you to decide what is significant to the "average" person, if there is such a thing?
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#60I really don't understand why anyone is paying $1000+ for a phone when you can get really amazing phones for $300.
The price is often reduced by your carrier or obscured by no interest payments included in your cell bill. And those $300 phones don't have a mind-blowing camera, but the latest gen flagships phones finally do. That, plus the fact that phones become obsolete much more slowly now, makes those $1k phones a worthwhile investment to me.