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Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by adjkant » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 3:30 AM UTC

lowercased wrote: post #49

adjkant wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> my Myers-Briggs personality type is INFJ, but most programmers are not. Aren't most programmers INTJ? Debate about MBTI aside, that's really not much of a difference...

Spoken like a true T...

Why the assumption? I'm very much a proponent of INTJ's developing their feeling side and tbh I prefer INFJ's to INTJ's personally. It doesn't change that the difference is in only one category, and not in one I would say drives the professional world as much as say N/S when it comes to working together. I'm not sure where such s strong conflict would come from, especially given that every category is a spectrum and very few are 100% T or F. To assume there is such a radical difference in one categorization is precisely a flaw of MBTI's use.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by EpicEng » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 3:53 AM UTC

clubm8 wrote: post #46

combatentropy wrote: post #39

Talk about overthinking it! This thread highlights the recurrent conflict that arises because my Myers-Briggs personality type is INFJ, but most programmers are not. To me a Christmas movie is a movie with the spirit of Christmas running through it, however weakly. Another definition I have is this. A Christmas movie is a movie that is fun to watch around Christmas. Die Hard meets both of these definitions. Die Hard…

>Talk about overthinking it! This thread highlights the recurrent conflict that arises because my Myers-Briggs personality type is INFJ, but most programmers are not. Meyers-Briggs has a number of issues[1] and is frankly, unscientific. But because it uses a survey, it evokes feelings of rigor. Sometimes I feel that engineers are so obsessed with rigor, they'd rather use a solution that is wrong but "goes through the…

This comment is exactly what the OP was talking about...

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by mc32 » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 3:58 AM UTC

combatentropy wrote: post #39

Talk about overthinking it! This thread highlights the recurrent conflict that arises because my Myers-Briggs personality type is INFJ, but most programmers are not. To me a Christmas movie is a movie with the spirit of Christmas running through it, however weakly. Another definition I have is this. A Christmas movie is a movie that is fun to watch around Christmas. Die Hard meets both of these definitions. Die Hard…

Sen Rand Paul says it's a Christmas movie... https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1076824663794294784

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by _8j50 » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 4:00 AM UTC

combatentropy wrote: post #39

Talk about overthinking it! This thread highlights the recurrent conflict that arises because my Myers-Briggs personality type is INFJ, but most programmers are not. To me a Christmas movie is a movie with the spirit of Christmas running through it, however weakly. Another definition I have is this. A Christmas movie is a movie that is fun to watch around Christmas. Die Hard meets both of these definitions. Die Hard…

I think the correct answer is: depends on what Christmas is to you. Is Christmas the american generic holiday or the Christian holiday celebrating the birth of the Christ? That definition makes a big difference on answering whether or not something is a Christmas thing.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by Larrikin » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 4:43 AM UTC

nubb wrote: post #23

Larrikin wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Die Hard being regarded as a Christmas movie has been growing in popularity in the culture for many years now. I did however first hear about it being discussed in a TV show, although I can't remember which. The article also touches on another meme that has been growing for the past few years, Thanksgiving and its lack of associated songs. I remember first noticing that due to Bob's Burgers mentioning it constantly i…

Was the show Brooklyn 99?

With all the Die Hard references, it almost certainly was.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by cnasc » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 4:48 AM UTC

avar wrote: post #4

This is only an argument because of different ways of defining what a "Christmas movie" is, which aren't mutually exclusive: a) Whether the movie is unambiguously set during Christmas, and if so whether that's clearly an artistic choice, or as much of a coincidence as a movie that has nothing to do with the weather being set in the summer or winter. b) Whether the movie is aimed at the "Christmas movie market". I.e.…

> Do mildly Christmas-themed movies such as Die Hard (it's not integral to the plot)

The plot of the movie would have to be changed substantially if it didn't take place at Christmas, so I think it is integral to the plot.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by tsumnia » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 5:20 AM UTC

Know what? I'm fine either way - I'd rather argue with my dad about whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie than politics and the economy any day.

So here's my vote - arguing ABOUT Die Hard being a Christmas move HAS BECOME a Christmas tradition.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by effingwewt » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 5:49 AM UTC

adjkant wrote: post #47

combatentropy wrote: post #39

Talk about overthinking it! This thread highlights the recurrent conflict that arises because my Myers-Briggs personality type is INFJ, but most programmers are not. To me a Christmas movie is a movie with the spirit of Christmas running through it, however weakly. Another definition I have is this. A Christmas movie is a movie that is fun to watch around Christmas. Die Hard meets both of these definitions. Die Hard…

> my Myers-Briggs personality type is INFJ, but most programmers are not. Aren't most programmers INTJ? Debate about MBTI aside, that's really not much of a difference...

I didn't downvote you, I've never been able to, and wouldn't have even if I could. I just wanted to point out this MB chart is essentially the programmer's version of 'I'm high strung because I'm sagittarian'.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by naasking » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 5:59 AM UTC

klyrs wrote: post #43

naasking wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good example. Also, Bad Santa.

Okay okay, I saw that name in another comment... but now I'll seek it out 'cause I know you've seen Rare Exports and that's still your favorite.

I think you confused me for another poster, but it is a good movie if you enjoy dark humour.

Re: Using data to determine if Die Hard is a Christmas movie

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Post by toast0 » Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 6:05 AM UTC

cnasc wrote: post #56

avar wrote: post #4

This is only an argument because of different ways of defining what a "Christmas movie" is, which aren't mutually exclusive: a) Whether the movie is unambiguously set during Christmas, and if so whether that's clearly an artistic choice, or as much of a coincidence as a movie that has nothing to do with the weather being set in the summer or winter. b) Whether the movie is aimed at the "Christmas movie market". I.e.…

> Do mildly Christmas-themed movies such as Die Hard (it's not integral to the plot) The plot of the movie would have to be changed substantially if it didn't take place at Christmas, so I think it is integral to the plot.

The plot would have to change, but very little of importance. Instead of an evening Christmas party, it could have been an evening party celebrating the opening of the building. And don't write ho ho ho on the terrorist you put in the elevator. Done.