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Re: Show HN: Fancy fonts you can use almost anywhere

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Post by Ajedi32 »

shadowfaxRodeo wrote: post #24
X-Istence wrote: post #9

This is (ab)using unicode, for example the F is actually a Mathematical Bold Fraktur Capital F: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D571 This is terrible for screen readers and the like which are unable to read or understand these unicode characters making accessibility a real concern.

I wonder actually. Google seems to understand these, you can search with them. I wouldn't be surprised if screen readers understand these symbols. They're originally for Mathematics, and I'm sure there's plenty of blind mathematicians.

Wow, that's actually pretty neat: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com%...

Anyone know if there are any existing libraries that do this conversion?

Re: Show HN: Fancy fonts you can use almost anywhere

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Post by avaika »

X-Istence wrote: post #9

This is (ab)using unicode, for example the F is actually a Mathematical Bold Fraktur Capital F: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D571 This is terrible for screen readers and the like which are unable to read or understand these unicode characters making accessibility a real concern.

Just use mysql < v8 to store your data. By default it has utf8mb3 anyway. Problem solved ;)

Re: Show HN: Fancy fonts you can use almost anywhere

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Post by warent »

whatshisface wrote: post #25
koolba wrote: post #4

𝕷𝖊𝖙’𝖘 𝖘𝖊𝖊 𝖍𝖔𝖜 𝖋𝖆𝖘𝖙 𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖎𝖘 𝖆𝖇𝖚𝖘𝖊𝖉 𝖙𝖔 𝖉𝖗𝖆𝖜 𝖆𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝕳𝕹 𝖘𝖚𝖇𝖒𝖎𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖘 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖘.

I think it will be a good way to attract downvotes moreso than attention.

Can't downvote submissions. So, abuse away! ;)

Re: Show HN: Fancy fonts you can use almost anywhere

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Post by gus_massa »

whatshisface wrote: post #25
koolba wrote: post #4

𝕷𝖊𝖙’𝖘 𝖘𝖊𝖊 𝖍𝖔𝖜 𝖋𝖆𝖘𝖙 𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖎𝖘 𝖆𝖇𝖚𝖘𝖊𝖉 𝖙𝖔 𝖉𝖗𝖆𝖜 𝖆𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖙𝖔 𝕳𝕹 𝖘𝖚𝖇𝖒𝖎𝖘𝖘𝖎𝖔𝖓𝖘 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖘.

I think it will be a good way to attract downvotes moreso than attention.

And when the post is not flagged, the mods will change the text to normal letters. (If they take too much time, you can send a fancy font removal request to them hn@ycombinator.com)

Re: Show HN: Fancy fonts you can use almost anywhere

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Post by whatshisface »

daeken wrote: post #22
whatshisface wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see why screen readers can't just be extended to handle characters that look like F.

Because they have uses outside of the abuse. If you always expect that they're being used improperly, then you mess up the actual use cases.

What would be an example of a string like "𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠" appearing in a context where the screen reader should not attempt to pronounce it? Note that in math usage, a lone ℝ should be pronounced exactly the same way as a lone R.

Re: Show HN: Fancy fonts you can use almost anywhere

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Post by kazinator »

X-Istence wrote: post #9

This is (ab)using unicode, for example the F is actually a Mathematical Bold Fraktur Capital F: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1D571 This is terrible for screen readers and the like which are unable to read or understand these unicode characters making accessibility a real concern.

Could also have issues with systems that have broken 16-bit-only Unicode support (Java, Windows, ...) in which code points beyond U+FFFF have to be encoded with some surrogate pair nonsense that is likely untested in many text-handling situations.

Re: Show HN: Fancy fonts you can use almost anywhere

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Post by [deleted] »

X-Istence wrote: post #38
shadowfaxRodeo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder actually. Google seems to understand these, you can search with them. I wouldn't be surprised if screen readers understand these symbols. They're originally for Mathematics, and I'm sure there's plenty of blind mathematicians.

Some of them are outside the mathematical range, that just happened to be the one I picked. Google has a lot of resources to do normalization, when IDNA in the URL bar became common they and other browser manufacturers had to put resources behind similar looking glyph attacks to make sure that you were actually on google.com and not on some site that was using a homoglyph attack. https://blog.malwarebytes.com/101/201…

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