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Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

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Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

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post #12

It breaks when you switch to Fahrenheit and use the sous vide + liquid nitrogen recipe. It autoconverts -200°C to -328°F which then errors "too low" (for some reason?)

I got the same error

I wonder if it's because "-273 C = 0 kelvin = absolute zero" which was coded as a simple check on the field > -273 without units

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#52
post #4

My go to site when cooking thicker than normal steaks via Sous-vide

Sous-vide is just amazing isn’t it? I won’t cook steak any other way since I got my circulator. I have never tried the liquid nitrogen though!

Yep, totally spoiled now. Can’t eat a steak at a restaurant or anyone’s house after sous-vide.

I also have a great marinade that we add to the bag while it cooks. Seriously, it is ridiculous.

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#53

My question is how to brown/caramelize meat with only an induction cooktop? After I put my chicken, I just see all the water come out and the chicken starts boiling in the pan :(

Dry the meat with paper towels before. Use cast iron or carbon steel, get the empty pan ripping hot, pour some canola oil and it should start smoking. Put your meat in the pan. Dont touch it for a minute.

Guaranteed sear.

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#54

I'm impressed but disappointed the "reverse sear" is missing. If you haven't tried, it, it's a pretty amazing way to cook a steak and it scales up to lots of steaks at the same time. It's awesome [1] https://www.seriouseats.com/2017/03/how-to-reverse-sear-best...

One thing to note is that reverse sear was his answer to sous vide being too expensive. He does note that there are upsides and downsides to both, but the world has changed and these days precision sous vide circulators are dirt cheap.

Kenji Alt has gone into some depth on the tradeoffs between reverse-sear and circulators. There isn't much downside to reverse-sear; you get superior browning (the same quality browning on a circulated steak will give you a grey band), and basically just trade off not having to keep track of time.

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#55

I'm impressed but disappointed the "reverse sear" is missing. If you haven't tried, it, it's a pretty amazing way to cook a steak and it scales up to lots of steaks at the same time. It's awesome [1] https://www.seriouseats.com/2017/03/how-to-reverse-sear-best...

Just make your own. Or click "as text" and paste this in: 3cm Steak starts at 23°C 110°C and 110°C for 2:00 23°C and 230°C for 0:15 230°C and 23°C for 0:15 23°C and 23°C for 20:00

The chart on that page reads:

Temperature and Timing for Reverse-Seared Steak For 1 1/2–Inch Steaks in a 250°F (120°C) Oven

Doneness Target Temperature in the Oven Final Target Temperature Approximate Time in Oven

Rare 105°F (40°C) 120°F (49°C) 20 to 25 minutes

Medium-Rare 115°F (46°C) 130°F (54°C) 25 to 30 minutes

Medium 125°F (52°C) 140°F (60°C) 30 to 35 minutes

Medium-Well 135°F (57°C) 150°F (66°C) 35 to 40 minutes

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#56
post #50

Would be interesting to see sous vide and torches incorporated into this. I usually "sous vide" at a lower temp and then finish with a weed burning torch (aka flame thrower). I find using a large and very hot flame is necessary to get that crisp outside without overcooking it. The handheld chef torches don't get enough searing to cooking ratio. Fat and connective tissue is another factor that makes things interesting…

https://www.amazon.com/Searzall-Torch-Attachment-Small-Stain...

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#57
post #4

My go to site when cooking thicker than normal steaks via Sous-vide

Sous-vide is just amazing isn’t it? I won’t cook steak any other way since I got my circulator. I have never tried the liquid nitrogen though!

I've had a Sous-vide setup for years and will use it for just about everything, except steaks. No matter what I try I cannot get results anywhere near as good as I get with a simple reverse sear.

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#58
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For ribs I follow a modified 321 method, 3:30 on, 1:30 in tinfoil on, 1 unwrapped. Sauce them 10-20 minutes before they are done just to carmelize it a bit. They are still tender but with A bit of toothiness left.

you're describing classic ribs (not sous vide, liquid N, or deep frying), right? It's funny you mentioned that because the other point Mhyrvold and I discussed was using aluminum foil to tightly wrap the ribs during cooking- eliminating the water vapor that forms around the meat, which contributed to barbeque stall. Should speed up cooking without negatively affecting the results by 2-3 hours.

I was describing my method of BBQ in response to the gp. deep frying sous vide, liquid n or whatever other method is not bbq. Just like grilling is not BBQ. The style has a fairly specific meaning. If your ribs don't sweat three times in the process over six hours, you are doing it wrong.

Foiling them locks in the moisture. It absolutely doesn't eliminate it.

6 hours, low and slow. Or its not passable as BBQ

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

#59
Cooking the meat is cool. But, being someone of french gastronomical culture, I to to lean to Fernand Point saying : "Du beurre ! Donnez-moi du beurre ! Toujours du beurre !"

(basically, butter, butter, butter).

There was a recipe from G. Ramsay where it show to first sear the steak in oil, then, finish it with a bit of butter. It adds flavor and prevent the butter to burn.

I also tend to use my finger to test if a steak is fine. I'm no expert, but it works 80% of the time (to get a good steak). Now I must admit that sous-vide gives a lot more control and helps to reach the medium cook on a much wider part of the meat.

Re: Cook My Meat: heat diffusion through meat over time

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post #59

Cooking the meat is cool. But, being someone of french gastronomical culture, I to to lean to Fernand Point saying : "Du beurre ! Donnez-moi du beurre ! Toujours du beurre !" (basically, butter, butter, butter). There was a recipe from G. Ramsay where it show to first sear the steak in oil, then, finish it with a bit of butter. It adds flavor and prevent the butter to burn. I also tend to use my finger to test if a s…

I threw away the finger technique, and now I use an instant thermal probe. Works 100% of the time.

+1 for the beurre, but don't forget to buy more for the sauce! It's all about the sauce.

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