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Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by thewhitetulip » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 10:29 AM UTC

I hardly think so. Youtube is a casual Netflix. Unless YouTube comes up with epic tv shows it won't be a serious competitor to Netflix.

But that being said, Youtube is a den of self made videos like Honest Trailers, how it should have ended.

Also sleep can't be a competitor. It is a bad thing if your product is so addictive that people go crazy over it. This is the reaosn why most apps these days let users track their times spent on the app. Because if people are severely addicted, they will not stay addicted for the rest od their lives. They will dump the site. I did the same to Prime, facebook and Instagram.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by philliphaydon » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 10:42 AM UTC

thewhitetulip wrote: post #51

I hardly think so. Youtube is a casual Netflix. Unless YouTube comes up with epic tv shows it won't be a serious competitor to Netflix. But that being said, Youtube is a den of self made videos like Honest Trailers, how it should have ended. Also sleep can't be a competitor. It is a bad thing if your product is so addictive that people go crazy over it. This is the reaosn why most apps these days let users track thei…

Cobra kai and impulse were pretty good. But YouTube said they will be investing less in original content recently so I don’t know what will happen with good content like this...

Netflix on the other hand every time I think I’ll cancel, comes out with a bunch of new shows to watch and I seem to enjoy.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by philliphaydon » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 10:44 AM UTC

mod wrote: post #5

godelski wrote: post #3

I think both would do better if they actually recommended me something I wanted to watch. Like why doesn't YouTube put on the front page a user's new video who I'm subscribed to (Applied Science), pressed the dumb bell icon, and have watched literally every video of (which are always over 10 minutes)? I can't think of any more clear indication of "I want this" than that. Netflix does similar things. Pushing their own…

My YouTube homepage is about 75% stuff I want to watch or that comes from subscribers I usually want to watch. It’s badically exactly what you just said you wished for. I’m not sure why your experience is different from mine.

Despite what I subscribe to. My home page is 95% stuff I’ve never clicked on...

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by sebastianavina » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:00 AM UTC

S_A_P wrote: post #4

I don't necessarily agree with this. If I want to watch well produced online content, I do not think Youtube.com. I do think that Netflix and amazon Prime video have "traditional" studio created content that has high production value. That said, I watch youtube and Netflix almost equally, but for different reasons. Youtube is great for short videos, interviews and niche interest. IF I want to watch scripted drama lik…

I've bought several movies on youtube. My family has netflix, but I don't like to watch tv, so I really dont care... On the other side, sometimes I read something about a movie, and I just want to watch that movie... If it's not available on netflix, I go straight to youtube and buy it or rent it... Also, I always listen music on youtube. It's just a differente market...

My mom love the tv, and watches tv 10 hours a day straight (yeah, its unhealty, but she is 66 y/o, so if thats her will, she can do whatever she wants), and she loves netflix, and amazon prime, and claro video, and youtube...

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by kkarakk » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:03 AM UTC

aequitas wrote: post #30

fouc wrote: post #12

Does anyone ever feel irritated by "amateur" produced videos that approach the quality of professional studios? Sometimes it's distracting when there's too much work done on the video, and you can tell there's additional people helping out behind the camera and you never get to see them as part of the video. Basically amateur/gonzo level videos feel more truthful than the highly edited videos.

Do you have any examples of this? I have never noticed this so far, the "crew" is always in the video or am just not watching those videos?

any youtuber who averages 100k views per video with more than one video a week probably either has a video editor or dark circles under their eyes.

a lot of them have camera men/audio guys and a personal assistant to keep track of their schedule if they're the jetsetting type

amateur youtube only exists <30k views + maybe 1 video in a week

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by mijamo » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:04 AM UTC

genidoi wrote: post #43

S_A_P wrote: post #4

I don't necessarily agree with this. If I want to watch well produced online content, I do not think Youtube.com. I do think that Netflix and amazon Prime video have "traditional" studio created content that has high production value. That said, I watch youtube and Netflix almost equally, but for different reasons. Youtube is great for short videos, interviews and niche interest. IF I want to watch scripted drama lik…

They are competitors - for your eyeballs. Just because they don't provide precisely the same service doesn't make them non-competitors. Youtube competes with Netflix the same way your shower length preference competes with Netflix. The disconcerting (if not narcissistic) elephant in the room being that service providers are viewing any activities that cause you to spend time away from their service as "competition" a…

I don't really understand this. Netflix cares about how much you watch it ONLY if it means you will stop your subscription. In fact, as long as you keep your subscription their interest is that you watch as few as possible to minimize costs, right? So a few addictive shows that make you need to keep Netflix are betters than keeping you on Netflix all day every day.

If Netflix cannot be replaced by Youtube, it is not a real competitor.

Saying otherwise leads to weird useless definitions of competition. We would have to say everything is a competitor of everything else, and then how is that interesting to know?

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by alecco » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:04 AM UTC

And they both suck.

Netflix content is weak. The catalog outside US is terrible.

YouTube ads are annoying yet original content is not worth the price for Premium. At a price point of $12 it's ridiculous. Music catalog is sub-par and not worth the switch from Spotify.

Both seem to be more dedicated to push PC propaganda than matching what viewers want. Original content is quite bad save for some exceptions (Wild Wild Country, Cobra Kai).

Months ago I canceled my Netflix account and hope some alternative site to YouTube comes up.

On the other hand, it was good for me. I've been listening to more audiobooks instead. Money better spent.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by kkarakk » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:06 AM UTC

whizzkid wrote: post #39

josteink wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As soon as their income increases, you will be able to see a hike in subscriptions. But that would be youtube pro subscriptions, right? Because they already have all the content they watch there, and just want offline or ad-free. Disclaimer: ditched Netflix, bought YouTube pro.

I think, It depends. As far as I know YouTube Premium is only for removing ads and music streaming. If there are movies and quality professional content on YouTube Premium, then Youtube will have a bigger advantage since both amateur and professional content creators will be on the same platform. But right now, Netflix is the place to watch most of the desired pro content when it comes to both films and tv series.

youtube is rolling out a program where you can pay your favorite creator directly(it's a sponsor button next to subscribe)

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by lloeki » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:07 AM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #48

mohi13 wrote: post #16

I get disgusted by thinking why does Netflix want people to not sleep. Why auto-play in 5 sec? Isn't this morally wrong, like dangling cocaine in front of a drug addict. I agree that people have free will but designing products so that people waste days just watching TV is very very sad IMHO.

> I get disgusted by thinking why does Netflix want people to not sleep. Why auto-play in 5 sec? It's like linear TV. No one complains about the "non-stop" aspect there.

Well I do, that's part of why I stopped watching broadcasts altogether.

The autoplay-next-thing can be disabled in the settings though, although it'll still auto-play a trailer after 15s if you complete a movie or whole series, which I loathe since it's a real mood killer after movies (I very much enjoy chilling or discussing while credits roll).

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Post by httpz » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 11:12 AM UTC

S_A_P wrote: post #4

I don't necessarily agree with this. If I want to watch well produced online content, I do not think Youtube.com. I do think that Netflix and amazon Prime video have "traditional" studio created content that has high production value. That said, I watch youtube and Netflix almost equally, but for different reasons. Youtube is great for short videos, interviews and niche interest. IF I want to watch scripted drama lik…

Comparing YouTube to Netflix is like comparing apples to oranges. However, at the end of the day I'm not gonna eat another orange when I already ate a lot of apples.