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Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia

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Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia

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They live on the surface now

And you're losing to them. Nationalism rising.

If you think it's about teams and winning then you're literally the source of the problem you're looking to fix.

Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia

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It's quite possible that the indigenous population knew of the cave, but it's very unlikely they ever purposefully descended into it. There's not much reason to, and it would be a very difficult descent.

And yet when my acquaintance summited Mt Everest, there was a Tibetan native there in a fur suit and hat. I am almost certain that there will be evidence of native incursion into the cave. Its been there a long time; the natives have been there a long time. Young bloods with nothing to lose are always doing damn-fool things like that.

There's no evidence that Sherpas summited Everest prior to Norgay doing it with Hillary's expedition. Into The Silence covers this in more detail, if you care to read the whole book, but there were technological and cultural hurdles to it ever happening.

Everest is a pretty clear example of native people not bothering to do stupid things until white people show up and get them tangled up in the mess.

Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia

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I’m curious as to how there are massive caves like this that we still haven’t discovered. Wouldn’t satellite imagery along with some ML be able to find these?

I guess the intersection between the set of people with the sufficient capabilities to do that and the set of people hunting for caves isn't that big. Is there a registry of all such caves with their coordinates to act as a training set?

Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia

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There's a river going there, how could this have been missed? Anyone got a map of this?

In addition to the other comments and explanations, I saw another article wherein one of the geologists mentioned that climate change could be a factor that previously inhibited its discovery - until a few decades ago, it was probably snow-covered year-round, which would make it much harder to see.

Re: Canadian team confirms presence of huge unexplored cave in British Columbia

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There's a river going there, how could this have been missed? Anyone got a map of this?

In addition to the other comments and explanations, I saw another article wherein one of the geologists mentioned that climate change could be a factor that previously inhibited its discovery - until a few decades ago, it was probably snow-covered year-round, which would make it much harder to see.

It's hard to tell on the satellite timelapse imagery, but overall you can visually tell that snow amounts have declined in the area. However, the very point where this cave is located still looks like a hole to me as of 1984.

Open a new browser window and open these two links into separate tabs and cycle through them fast until you get oriented. Not sure what conclusions you might draw from it. It's only 34 years' worth, but hmm.

1: https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/#v=52.52697,-120.06...

2: https://www.google.com/maps/place/52%C2%B031'00.8%22N+120%C2...

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