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Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by writepub »

casefields wrote: post #22
writepub wrote: post #15

The article seems to imply Sandberg approved of anti semetic attacks against Soros, conveniently ignoring the fact that Sandberg (& Zuckerberg) is a Jew herself. I don't know what the editorial team at NYT thinks is happening, but I don't think Sandberg would condone anti semetic attacks against anyone, even rivals.

That is such a weak defense. It didn't work for Edward Said and it won't work for them.

If you really think Soros' Jewish heritage, versus a plethora of political actions, is more fodder for Sandberg, you've thoroughly underestimated her.

My statement doesn't constitute a defense, because the NYT has failed to prove that Sanberg explicitly requested an anti-Semitic line of attack be launched again Soros. You'd expect a paper of NYT's stature to not omit the fact that Sandberg & Zuck are Jews themselves, and the likelihood of them conding attacks that paint their own heritage in bad light, is low, if not impossible

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by xibalba »

mc32 wrote: post #2

>told subordinates to examine why Mr. Soros had criticized the tech companies and whether he stood to gain financially from the attacks. Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies. So, it shouldn't be surprising FB would want to know what might be in store for them if he went nuclear on them. What is surprising is the odd bedfellows of…

I think this comment misses the larger point of the article. The narrative being constructed by the NYT and others is that Sandberg has at best been "forgetful" in recollecting her role in this "Definers Public Affairs" scandal. If we're being less charitable, it appears the insinuation is that she lied about and possibly even covered up her role. Keep in mind, Definers' smears trafficked in anti-semitic subtext (a powerful cabal of Jews manipulating world events). Sandberg is in a lot of trouble here. She has been very deliberately burnishing her public image for years, and has thus far deftly avoided being tarnished by the many FB scandals. There have been suggestions that much of this PR strategy was to set her up for a run at a major political office. Those ambitions look to be in serious trouble if her involvement in this scandal deepens.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by ALittleLight »

natch wrote: post #24
askafriend wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone is publicly saying questionable things about your organization, then trying to find out what their motivations might be by doing research is just common sense (especially if the company in question is publicly traded). So I'm with you there, I don't get the outrage here at all. It comes off as cheap and manufactured from what I'm seeing.

Which outrage are you referring to? I didn't see any in the article. It seemed pretty even keeled.

I think the outrage is implicit in the the publication of the article. Why is this in the New York Times? He criticized the company, she asked is he had a financial interest behind the criticism. Okay? Why is this a story?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by thisisit »

mc32 wrote: post #2

>told subordinates to examine why Mr. Soros had criticized the tech companies and whether he stood to gain financially from the attacks. Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies. So, it shouldn't be surprising FB would want to know what might be in store for them if he went nuclear on them. What is surprising is the odd bedfellows of…

> Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies

Whole countries? I have heard of only one - the infamous british pound. And that too it caused the GBP rates to fall but then financial damage to Britian as a country? What is your source exactly?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by delhanty »

askafriend wrote: post #11
mc32 wrote: post #2

>told subordinates to examine why Mr. Soros had criticized the tech companies and whether he stood to gain financially from the attacks. Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies. So, it shouldn't be surprising FB would want to know what might be in store for them if he went nuclear on them. What is surprising is the odd bedfellows of…

If someone is publicly saying questionable things about your organization, then trying to find out what their motivations might be by doing research is just common sense (especially if the company in question is publicly traded). So I'm with you there, I don't get the outrage here at all. It comes off as cheap and manufactured from what I'm seeing.

Furthermore, the New York Times and friends are competitors with Facebook, Google et al in the market for online advertising, so their interest in taking down Facebook comes across as self-serving.

For myself, I'd like to see a 95% contraction in the online advertising market $ value, so I'm uBlock Origin all the way.

Edit: for clarity, I'm not here to shill for Facebook - they're toxic! I'd be quite happy if Facebook shrunk to $0.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by ALittleLight »

writepub wrote: post #51
casefields wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is such a weak defense. It didn't work for Edward Said and it won't work for them.

If you really think Soros' Jewish heritage, versus a plethora of political actions, is more fodder for Sandberg, you've thoroughly underestimated her. My statement doesn't constitute a defense, because the NYT has failed to prove that Sanberg explicitly requested an anti-Semitic line of attack be launched again Soros. You'd expect a paper of NYT's stature to not omit the fact that Sandberg & Zuck are Jews themselves,…

There's a difference between anti-Semitic attacks that are motivated out of antisemitism and attacks that are motivated out of self interest. I don't believe anybody thinks Zuckerberg and Sandberg implied anti-Semitic things about Soros out of their genuine hatred of Jews. Instead, the idea is that they tried to exploit antisemitism to obfuscate legitimate criticism of their company.

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Post by KKKKkkkk1 »

mc32 wrote: post #2

>told subordinates to examine why Mr. Soros had criticized the tech companies and whether he stood to gain financially from the attacks. Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies. So, it shouldn't be surprising FB would want to know what might be in store for them if he went nuclear on them. What is surprising is the odd bedfellows of…

Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies.

When the UK government made a commitment to prop up a fake GBP exchange rate and then failed, isn't it the UK government that caused the financial damage rather than George Soros?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by jamesrcole »

chokolad wrote: post #48
mc32 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Sheryll is now a conservative? Uhhuh.

Apparently also anti-Semite.

I have no idea whether she is or not, but statements like that require some sort of source. Hearsay accusations are toxic.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by shrewduser »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #57
mc32 wrote: post #2

>told subordinates to examine why Mr. Soros had criticized the tech companies and whether he stood to gain financially from the attacks. Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies. So, it shouldn't be surprising FB would want to know what might be in store for them if he went nuclear on them. What is surprising is the odd bedfellows of…

Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies. When the UK government made a commitment to prop up a fake GBP exchange rate and then failed, isn't it the UK government that caused the financial damage rather than George Soros?

sounds similar to when the US was on the gold standard

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by rorykoehler »

jshorty wrote: post #17
vtesucks wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because the establishment segment (clinton) genuinely fear him throwing his hat in for 2020. Not that I like him but honestly, if he can sells fb stock and promises to genuinely treat Usa like his firm, I'd prefer him over a politician who says what pays (which is all politicians in all sides).

I disagree, I don't think they fear that. I'm not sure why Zuckerberg was ever really floated as a potential candidate. He's not particularly charismatic and fails the "beer test" with basically everybody in America, and would likely have a harder time connecting with the voting masses than Hillary Clinton. With his lack of experience added to that, and no real ability to run as an 'outsider' as a billionaire tech el…

>fails the "beer test" with basically everybody in America.

Sounds nailed on to be the DNC nominee then.

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