Rule of thumb: don't enter any country where you need an exit visa to leave.
You dont need one in UAE.
Life Sentence for British Student Draws Criticism for U.A.E
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you acting like these western democracies aren't just as barbarous and cruel?
I agree. I wonder how many of the people that disagree are people of color who do not come from high ses. our prison industry (3 strikes for non violent crimes, people spending years in jail for minor crimes, arrest quotas) and police homocides against unarmed black and disabled people puts us right up there with them.
Most likely none; this is hacker news, a site targeted towards people in tech, a mostly white/Asian industry.
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#53It’s absurd that a British citizen, or a citizen of any democratic county, is living and studying in a repressive, corrupt and violent regime like the United Arab Emirates. These countries and their kleptocratic Sheikhs throw wealth derived from oil and blood at western universities, and bribe their officials into setting up “campuses” in their states. Then they get upset when arriving students don’t conform to the a…
> The Cold War is over. Yet somehow western democracies are still clinging on to alliances with barbarous regimes like Saudi Arabia and UAE. That's because those in power are the moderate ones, who are able to keep the most extreme elements of Islamic fundamentalism at bay. You want to topple Saudi Arabia and UAE? Great, now it's run by ISIS. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser evil.
Saudi Arabia is the ISIS that made it so I don't see your point? The beheaded even less so.
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#55I used to live there, strange place. Only ever got rejected at clubs for wearing shorts, can you imagine wearing pants in a desert? fuck all that
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you acting like these western democracies aren't just as barbarous and cruel?
I agree. I wonder how many of the people that disagree are people of color who do not come from high ses. our prison industry (3 strikes for non violent crimes, people spending years in jail for minor crimes, arrest quotas) and police homocides against unarmed black and disabled people puts us right up there with them.
Russian trolls and their "useful idiots" agree. That's about it.
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#57Article is light on details other than to say he was carrying out “legitimate academic research into security policy following the Arab spring”. Let’s say that someone from say China came to the US to stake out airports and study the US’s airport security protocol. I’m not sure the outcome would be much different. Even if this was all totally above board it Seems a bit naive to think this isn’t something that you sho…
> US to stake out airports and study the US’s airport security protocol. I’m not sure the outcome would be much different Could you point to a real-life example you have in mind, in which either (or both) the judicial process was so non-transparent, or the punishment so severe? I mean, the obvious situation that comes to mind is Gitmo, but I couldn't think of instances of Gitmo detainees who were legal immigrants or…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Elcom_Ltd. comes to mind. Of course the charges were ultimately dropped, but only on condition that Sklyarov testify against his employer. On the other hand this as a DMCA case, not espionage. The reaction was massively unbalanced. If you had a researcher who was deemed to be revealing state secrets, it seems fairly likely that the state would use whatever powers it had to keep the lid on things.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The Cold War is over. Yet somehow western democracies are still clinging on to alliances with barbarous regimes like Saudi Arabia and UAE. That's because those in power are the moderate ones, who are able to keep the most extreme elements of Islamic fundamentalism at bay. You want to topple Saudi Arabia and UAE? Great, now it's run by ISIS. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser evil.
If only US and NATO applied that logic to Lybia and Syria
They did for a long time.
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#59How is this relevant to HN? Isn't "most political stuff" explicitly off topic?
Also, most people calling out UAE to be a "dangerous" place and make misinformed should really learn more before making blanket statements. I have lived there for half of my life and also lived in the world "largest democracy" and also in the US. I feel safer in the UAE as an immigrant than I do in either of those places.
For context, in India you have PSA, AFSPA, etc which are barbaric laws to which thousands of civilians have lost their lives. In the U.S, most of my Muslim friends (and myself included) feel constantly threatened by racism/xenophobia (this includes physical attacks).
Edit: PSA or Public Safety Act is when the Indian Government can "legally" detain you in Kashmir (an area illegally occupied by India, disregarding UN resolutions to hold a referendum) under the pretext that you are a threat to public safety. Children as young as 14 years old have been booked under this act, and jailed.
AFSPA (Armed Forced Special Powers Act) is when the Indian Armed forces can put a bullet in your head and face no judicial probe, which seems like a violation of international law to me.
Bet Saudi Arabia feels real safe now.