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LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Post by thomasz »

AYBABTME wrote: post #39
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brokers typically have social mobility, and a choice in their type of work. Their sacrifice to make ends meet is incomparable to that of someone selling their body. I'm confused how you can draw a likeness between the two. Perhaps there are moral threads to pull, but I don't think they end up going to the same place.

The way you imply that "selling their body" is worse than selling whatever part of themselves a stockbroker sells while doing drugs in order to work, really is kind of part of the problem. You put a moral judgement over which activity is more degrading than another. Consider this: what if people we're entitled to do whatever they want with their body, without having to abide to your standards and morals? How much of…

Jesus Christ... It's almost certainly worse subjectively (seriously, how many stockbrokers would describe their line of work as degrading, compared to prostitutes!?) and objectively in terms of massively increased risks in terms of mental and physical health, exposure to sexual violence as well as facing ostracism from family, friends and society as a whole.

Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Post by JDiculous »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #8
byoung2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Change "heroin" to "cocaine" and you could tell the same story about many stockbrokers, so what's the point?

Brokers typically have social mobility, and a choice in their type of work. Their sacrifice to make ends meet is incomparable to that of someone selling their body. I'm confused how you can draw a likeness between the two. Perhaps there are moral threads to pull, but I don't think they end up going to the same place.

Everybody has a choice in their type of work, nobody is forced to be a prostitute. Yes most prostitutes probably don't enjoy it, but they put up with it because the money is generally many multiples more than whatever they'd make at an office job and the hours are more flexible.

If someone feels like they don't have any other job opportunities, then making prostitution illegal certainly won't fix that problem (nor does it eliminate prostitution - prostitution exists everywhere, making it illegal just means a prostitute can't go to the police if a customer takes advantage of her).

Policing prostitution is a complete waste of taxpayer money.

Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Post by fouc »

googlryas wrote: post #33
byoung2 wrote: post #5

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Exactly...if it's legal, you won't see dark alley trolling or illegal turns. You would see professional websites, apps, and clean, regulated places of business.

Sure you will. Maybe not as much, but it will still be there. There are still illegal marijuana dealers in legalized states. Women will continue to be 'streetwalkers', because they can't access the regulated place of business - maybe because of previous bad behavior such as stealing or assaulting clients - maybe because they have a STD and the regulated place won't let them work for health reasons - maybe because the…

Or they are part-timers that only do it once in awhile.

Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Post by fouc »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #37
googlryas wrote: post #32

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At what rate do you think women are driven into prostitution because they hit a glass ceiling in their previous line of work? Versus, you know, never getting off the ground floor?

I have six years of college, including a Certificate in GIS. I worked at a Fortune 500 company for over 5 years. The only person at the company who knew what GIS was without me having to explain it was a senior programmer who asked me for a date, thereby making it vastly less likely that I could ever successfully get a job in his department. I've been a member of HN for over 9 years. I spent nearly 6 of it homeless.…

HN isn't really a place to network.

Also, don't let your scholastic success hold you back.

If you're smart & skilled & able to work, how about working on upworker.com even if it's only $20/hr? ( I mean - take steps to keep moving forward. Don't remain homeless for reasons. )

Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Post by blattimwind »

abcanthur wrote: post #42
chrisseaton wrote: post #41

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What's an 'A column' on a traffic junction? And why would pedestrians be crossing if the traffic is moving?

The A column is the structure of the car between the windshield and the driver and passenger windows. The B Columns are subsequently the structure between the first and second row of seats (I think).

The A, B, C and D columns are counted front to back. No magic ;)

Notably the thick and angled A columns of modern cars create fairly large blind spots to the front left and right, while wide B columns are problematic for larger drivers, since the B column blocks visibility over the shoulder.

Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Post by aikah »

JDiculous wrote: post #52
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brokers typically have social mobility, and a choice in their type of work. Their sacrifice to make ends meet is incomparable to that of someone selling their body. I'm confused how you can draw a likeness between the two. Perhaps there are moral threads to pull, but I don't think they end up going to the same place.

Everybody has a choice in their type of work, nobody is forced to be a prostitute. Yes most prostitutes probably don't enjoy it, but they put up with it because the money is generally many multiples more than whatever they'd make at an office job and the hours are more flexible. If someone feels like they don't have any other job opportunities, then making prostitution illegal certainly won't fix that problem (nor do…

i'm not sure on what planet you are living or you think you live.

> Everybody has a choice in their type of work, nobody is forced to be a prostitute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

People are forced into sex work all the time, everywhere on the planet including in rich western countries, by various means,debt, violence,death threats,the "boyfriend" who is a pimp, even "curse" threats, especially young kids, and most johns don't give a damn. Women who refuse to submit to their pimps or the mafia are killed to set an example.

Re: LA Is Trying to Fix Its Prostitution Problem by Banning Right Turns at Night

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Post by chrisseaton »

blattimwind wrote: post #56
abcanthur wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The A column is the structure of the car between the windshield and the driver and passenger windows. The B Columns are subsequently the structure between the first and second row of seats (I think).

The A, B, C and D columns are counted front to back. No magic ;) Notably the thick and angled A columns of modern cars create fairly large blind spots to the front left and right, while wide B columns are problematic for larger drivers, since the B column blocks visibility over the shoulder.

> No magic ;)

Well you need to know that they refer to columns in the car's body in the first place.

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