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Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Re: Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Post by dragontamer »

hedvig wrote: post #42
sreyaNotfilc wrote: post #7

They keep taking the entire event down (~7 hours of competition) on the CTCW YouTube page, but luckily someone thought ahead and recorded the Semi-Finals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHMLwgE4ZG8 I've been following competitive Tetris for the past 2 years now. It slid into my YT feed and I've been hooked. I got to watch the stream live! Jonas is the man! He's won it multiple times and plays a beautiful game. I tho…

Aren't there are more modern versions that might make more sense for competition (tetris with friends)? Is it always going to be the old school version?

The modern variants of Tetris are generally called "SRS Tetris" in the Tetris community (ex: Tetris with Friends", but also Tetris Ultimate, or Puyo Puyo Tetris).

Some people don't like the SRS engine however. A lot of things have been added to SRS Tetris, such as bag-randomizers, hold-button, and a slew of "twists" that help you recover from errors.

For people who want to play "original Tetris", it means you have to play the original NES version. And there is a large community of players who really prefer the original style... and not the modern direction that make up the rules of SRS Tetris variants.

As I said in another post: I personally prefer SRS Tetris. But I also give a lot of credit to the players who prefer classic rules: the classic rules are way harder to play. And in some sense: more casual people have played Tetris under classic rules. (SRS Tetris is a newer variant, and a lot of casuals think of the "Hold" button as cheating in my experience).

Re: Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Post by smus »

pishpash wrote: post #4

Title makes no sense to me ("Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]").

I think the dumb part that no one's talking about is it's a competitive game. It'd be like saying "the Eagles beat football to take the superbowl."

Re: Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Post by apetresc »

jancsika wrote: post #47

The real puzzle is why there are so fewer young people playing Tetris-- a fairly recent game-- than, say, Chess-- which has been around for many decades. (An impressive 100% of known Chess masters are younger than the game.) I'd venture to guess the graphics of Tetris already look outdated by today's standards whereas the realism of Chess is much more visually impressive.

I can't tell if you're serious. Chess is a two-player game with centuries of theory behind it, tens of thousands of books, an incredibly competitive tournament scene with an international rating system. Moreover, it's a great spectator sport; watching chess helps you get better at chess.

Tetris, by comparison, is a single-player game (it has multiplayer analogues but they're very artificial) with extremely shallow theory. It is more akin to a puzzle than it is to a competitive game. Watching high-level tetris does nothing to improve your own tetris skill.

Re: Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Post by httpsterio »

dzdt wrote: post #29

My childhood claim to fame with tetris was to get a negative score on the windows 3.1 version. It turned out the points were stored in a 16 bit integer and wrapped to negative values above 32767. For sure in that version the "hypertap" approach was superior to holding down the arrow keys. Even with the highest repeat key settings in windows you could get more moves per second by tapping.

At least in classic tetris and a few other games this has to do with controller polling. If I remember correctly it polls the controller at 30 or 60hz so you'd get the commands in at just before the frame redraws if you're tapping at that speed. I dunno about key repearters though.

Re: Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Post by PetitPrince »

hedvig wrote: post #42
sreyaNotfilc wrote: post #7

They keep taking the entire event down (~7 hours of competition) on the CTCW YouTube page, but luckily someone thought ahead and recorded the Semi-Finals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHMLwgE4ZG8 I've been following competitive Tetris for the past 2 years now. It slid into my YT feed and I've been hooked. I got to watch the stream live! Jonas is the man! He's won it multiple times and plays a beautiful game. I tho…

Aren't there are more modern versions that might make more sense for competition (tetris with friends)? Is it always going to be the old school version?

Nowadays there's 3 competitive Tetris scene:

* NES Tetris: the subject of OP post.

* Standard Modern (or "SRS") Tetris. The game mechanics gives a lots of option to the player: pieces can slide after falling to the ground or when rotating against a wall, the RNG is optmized to give a uniform distribution of piece, etc. Since the speed of the game comes from the player himself, most people either play in a 1vs1 format [1] or in a solo 40 lines sprint [2]. It can get very fast [3] (an actual TAS looks like this [4].

* Arika Tetris (Tetris the Grand Master). A Japananese, arcade-only variant of Tetris. Here the game mechanics offer a lot of the same options (in spirit) as the Standard Modern Tetris, but the mechanics is tweaked for solo play. Not only it enables a high speed play, but forces you to keep up (otherwise it's game over). We got some good exposure some years ago thanks to the performance of Kevin et al. during the Awesome Game Done Quick Marathon a few years ago [5]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhnFztv79N8

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llMQxWfI-Mg

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyVh40sOav0

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqr69JJFa88

[5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViwDUiCzPVU

Re: Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Post by justwalt »

pennaMan wrote: post #6
pishpash wrote: post #4

Title makes no sense to me ("Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]").

They are trying to say that Tetris came out before he was born. Very poor attempt at a sensationalist title.

People in this thread are missing the point. It’s significant in Tetris because he’s playing against people who have been playing since release, an advantage which he didn’t have.

The same thing is happening in the Super Smash Bros Melee scene right now, where a new top player is winning games, and he’s the only top player who hasn’t been playing since ~2001-2002. It’s pretty exciting to see someone new beat the old guard.

Re: Teenager beats Tetris game older than he is to become world champion [video]

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Post by paulcole »

mabbo wrote: post #3

The BBC website won't display the video of this to me unless I install their app. There's something deeply wrong with that.

> There's something deeply wrong with that

Genuinely curious what you think is specifically wrong with it? If the BBC feels the app provides a better experience isn't that up to them?

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