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Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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Doesn't the CIA have a contract with Amazon to use AWS?

So?

That is the connection to government transparency.

The CIA is storing massive amounts of our data somewhere, so shouldn't we have the right to know where?

Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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The address in Palo Alto is right off University Avenue behind the Walgreens. The one in Luxembourg is an office building as well. I don't see much value unless one wants to destabilize internet infrastructure.

Most of the ones in the Bay Area are, to my knowledge relatively small "retail" colo spaces. 200 Paul, 528 Bryant is PAIX, 11 Great Oaks is Equinix. SV2 got shut down years ago. I don't remember AWS ever being in 3000 Corvin, which is a tiny, poorly powered data center. As an example of how old this data is, I reported to someone in 2014 time frame that led data center operations for some AWS regions including North…

I thought the datacenters on Corvin were newer; I've spent a lot of time at the Walsh Ave ones next to Nvidia and Corvin stuff looked new.

Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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>"In some cases, Amazon uses pseudonyms to obscure its presence. For example, at its IAD77 data center, the document states that “Amazon is known as ‘Vandalay Industries’ on badges and all correspondence with building manager”." This made me laugh. Vandalay Industries is a reference to a very funny Seinfeld episode. Someone at AWS has a good sense of humor: http://seinfeld.wikia.com/wiki/Vandelay_Industries

Seems like using ‘Vandalay Industries’ is a terrible idea. Doesn't everyone* know that anything called ‘Vandalay Industries’ is an obvious fake? * Maybe anyone over a certain age? Do people under... I dunno, 40? 30?... watch much Seinfeld? Seems like TV shows are largely generational things... I'm aware of MASH and Dick Van Dyke, but I wouldn't get the semi obscure jokes from those shows since they were on when I was…

I'm 31 and pretty much all my friends near my age have watched Seinfeld as some point.

The ones who would get that "Vandalay" reference? Probably <5% of them.

Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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1 day of destabilization = 10 years in jail. It will quickly recover, you however will not.

It is somewhat humorous you would assume a determined attacker would be apprehended, or dissuaded by jail time. Poor threat modeling. It's difficult enough to defend against wild backhoes.

You give actors too much credit

Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So?

That is the connection to government transparency. The CIA is storing massive amounts of our data somewhere, so shouldn't we have the right to know where?

I don't believe so, not if the risk to the general public is great enough.

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I’ve lost all respect for Wikileaks. How about actually leaking documents on day, I dunno, how the Chinese government is trying to brainwash Uighurs and erase their culture and religion? Instead, it’s always the US that’s been the bad guy, and now it’s not even really the government directly. There’s no cultural suppression or a larger public benefit from knowing where amazon data centers are located. What a joke.

You're assuming that anyone with these sorts of documents: 1) wants to leak them (most of the Chinese people who I've met in China, especially those who work in a government or military capacity, will bend over backwards to defend China from any level of perceived foreign criticism) 2) has the capability to leak them (most Chinese people are unlikely to know much about Wikileaks)

Pretty safe to assume wikileaks will not show up in Google Dragonfly searches.

Re: Amazon Atlas: The “Highly Confidential” locations of Amazon's data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So?

That is the connection to government transparency. The CIA is storing massive amounts of our data somewhere, so shouldn't we have the right to know where?

Why? Why does knowing where it is located a "right"? I feel US citizens have a right to know who is storing the data, and the parameters they must follow. Also you should have a right to know where the data is located, as in "in the USA". But beyond that, isn't having the actual address a security concern?
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