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Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by mehrdadn »

Spearchucker wrote: post #26
mehrdadn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't hope Microsoft dies, I just hope they realize how unreasonably stubborn they are being in forcefully shoving every new update of Windows down users' throats, and and that they then stop doing it.

And thereby leaving millions of unpatched machines vulnerable. We just went through that with Android. No thanks. I think a more reasonable answer lies in Microsoft taking a better/different approach to Q/A.

It used to work fine pre-Win-10 where they gave you the updates and let you install them when the time was right for you. This stubborn obsession with the idea that no sane user could possibly have anything more critical in their life than installing whatever code comes out of your hands instantly is just nuts.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by shawnz »

r00fus wrote: post #38
Spearchucker wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And thereby leaving millions of unpatched machines vulnerable. We just went through that with Android. No thanks. I think a more reasonable answer lies in Microsoft taking a better/different approach to Q/A.

I think iOS is better. I only get asked to bypass the OS update every month or so and it takes less than three seconds to bypass. They mover force an update but make you aware you're on an older version.

How does that solve the issue described in the comment you're replying to? Are you comfortable leaving potentially critical remote vulnerabilities exposed for a whole month?

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by xeeeeeeeeeeenu »

Spearchucker wrote: post #26
mehrdadn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't hope Microsoft dies, I just hope they realize how unreasonably stubborn they are being in forcefully shoving every new update of Windows down users' throats, and and that they then stop doing it.

And thereby leaving millions of unpatched machines vulnerable. We just went through that with Android. No thanks. I think a more reasonable answer lies in Microsoft taking a better/different approach to Q/A.

There's a difference between security updates and feature updates.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by derefr »

barking wrote: post #35
Spearchucker wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And thereby leaving millions of unpatched machines vulnerable. We just went through that with Android. No thanks. I think a more reasonable answer lies in Microsoft taking a better/different approach to Q/A.

They need to give you the choice on whether to update or not. If you choose not to they should just maybe give you a warning on every launch and leave it at that.

We're talking about herd immunity from viruses here. Imagine that there were a new deadly pandemic every few days. Should a human being, at that point, be allowed (by the social norms of their society, by law, whatever) to refuse to receive once-daily "vaccination updates"?

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by Tsubasachan »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #9
coeroble wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They released a new version of LTSB (well, they call it LTSC now) just a few days ago, based on this last version. I made a clean installation today. en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso No Store, no Cortana, no Edge, Windows 7 calculator, no Candy Crush, no bullshit. Don't miss out. ;-)

Slight downside: apparently Office 365 won't support LTSC soon: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Windows-IT-Pro-Blog/C...

The people who use LTSB also know how to get a volume license copy of Office 2019, which will be supported.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by Moru »

dzek69 wrote: post #31
Krasnol wrote: post #6

I personally never used those folder for my documents/music/etc. It wasn't a problem until programs started putting their stuff in there. This is part of the "must-put-on-C:\" behavior you see in much win software that I loathe. A constant pain and reason that C:\ seems never to be big enough.

Funny thing.. What I heard - this problem (removing files from folders like Documents, Downloads) happens only when you actually move storage of these. Yes, you can move Documents folder into D: and things will work just fine. But this is where this bug will hit you. I moved my Downloads folder, nothing much to loose here, but I'll surely do a backup of everything before updating.

We just dont use the documents folder. Create a folder on D ans save everything there. Just dont tell windows where your data is and you are fine :)

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by Angostura »

creato wrote: post #27
user3359 wrote: post #7

They're absolutely garbage at this. When I was _forced_ into the windows 10 update, it went through the process and appeared to finish but didn't put my desktop back. No problem I figured, they put it somewhere. So I did a file search, found the desktop in a folder, moved it back to the desktop. A day later it self-restarted and _completed the update_, replacing the desktop with the now empty desktop folder. I went t…

> I moved to Mac this year after being exclusively on Windows since '98. Funny, I use a Macbook pro at work, and windows at home. I'm not the kind of person that has strong preferences on tech, I use stuff until it stops working well and then I switch. My several (over time) work macbooks have been really bad. OSX has so many bugs, many of them seem really serious potential security issues (graphical corruption acros…

I have to say those screen issues sounds as if you have a dodgy GPU there, and the battery drain also sounds like a hardware fault. Have you had it checked out?

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Post by SteveGerencser »

mehrdadn wrote: post #12
user3359 wrote: post #7

They're absolutely garbage at this. When I was _forced_ into the windows 10 update, it went through the process and appeared to finish but didn't put my desktop back. No problem I figured, they put it somewhere. So I did a file search, found the desktop in a folder, moved it back to the desktop. A day later it self-restarted and _completed the update_, replacing the desktop with the now empty desktop folder. I went t…

I don't hope Microsoft dies, I just hope they realize how unreasonably stubborn they are being in forcefully shoving every new update of Windows down users' throats, and and that they then stop doing it.

We have 4 windows 10 machines here and a metered satellite internet connection for internet service. Didn't really think about it much until they pushed an update to all 4 machines the week after our monthly meter tripped on our service.

Next thing I knew I was on throttled internet for 3 weeks. Setting all the machines so that they don't update turned out to not be too hard, but was FAR harder than it needed to be. I'll decide when my equipment updates.

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