I feel it's safer these days to assume any digital product that's owned by a Chinese parent company is compromised, than assuming it isn't.
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Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
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Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also Apple doesn't allow any 3rd party browser engine in the App Store
Apple doesn't allow third party JIT. They allow third party rendering engines. Blink+JSC would be acceptable but I doubt anybody wants to put the work in to make that a reality.
Not even:
"2.5.6 Apps that browse the web must use the appropriate WebKit framework and WebKit Javascript."
( https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ )
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#53On iOS, there can’t really be an alternative to Safari because there is no way to change the default browser system wide. No matter how careful you are, eventually some app somewhere will open an URL, causing Safari to open, but now that it’s not your default browser, all your login state, your favorites and, heck, even just the familiar UI will be missing. No. Until iOS allows setting a default browser, there is no…
I used to use Chrome on iOS but actually switched to Microsoft Edge for my go-to browser. It works perfectly. I rarely click a web link from an outside app so going into Safari on a rare instance isn’t a problem. My ad blocking app uses a VPN configuration so it works in every single app on my iPhone. I found it’s actually quite easy to use alternate browsers on iPhone.
> My ad blocking app uses a VPN configuration so it works in every single app on my iPhone.
I would never trust an ad blocking app with all my traffic data and who the hell knows what else besides the VPN configuration it's installing in that profile.
Installing an iOS configuration profile is more or less equivalent to handing out physical unlocked access to whoever made that profile you've just installed.
I'm not saying your VPN-based Ad-Blocker is doing this. I'm saying they could. And just them having that capability is enough for me to never hand them that capability in the first place.
Ad blocking is fine. But not at this price.
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#54After the recent Chrome debacles, I removed it from my systems (not that I was using it much before). On iOS, my go to browser is Firefox Focus, a single tab browser that you treat as a private tab and erase quickly when you're done. It comes with a built in ad blocker too. Next in line for my use are Brave and Firefox. They're different, have good interfaces, and support multiple tabs. Last on my list is Safari. The…
What are your main problems with Safari?
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#55Opera is controlled by Qihoo 360, China a notorious rogue company.
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#56Is Opera Touch also owned by Opera's Chinese parent company? I couldn't see anything mentioned in the few articles I checked.
Everything still Opera branded is owned by Opera Limited (through the subsidiary Opera Software AS), which the Chinese consortium has the controlling stake in. The initial cross-licensing of the trademark ended at the end of last year (hence the renaming of Opera Software ASA to Otello Corporation ASA).
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#57I feel it's safer these days to assume any digital product that's owned by a Chinese parent company is compromised, than assuming it isn't.
Given the browser is produced by Opera Software AS, all data should be held under Norwegian law (which will in the near future include the GDPR), and your recourses are through the Norwegian courts, which makes it a very different situation to something developed directly in China.
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
The bigger question is if this means it would be harder for the NSA or other American government agencies to get my data? I assume a Chinese company would laugh at a National Security Letter? Since I'm an American, I don't worry about China having my data.
If China has your data they’re one step closer to having access to taking your money. Are you okay with them taking your money too? What recourse would you have?
It depends on _how_ they took your money, but there are several insurance options available for Identify Theft which includes unauthorized bank withdraws.
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#59On iOS, there can’t really be an alternative to Safari because there is no way to change the default browser system wide. No matter how careful you are, eventually some app somewhere will open an URL, causing Safari to open, but now that it’s not your default browser, all your login state, your favorites and, heck, even just the familiar UI will be missing. No. Until iOS allows setting a default browser, there is no…
On top of that, Safari state is shared in a lot of embedded browser windows inside apps, which no other browser can obviously implement
They had to limit this quite a bit because it was abused for tracking.
SFSafariViewController now has its own cookie store too unless you use a specific API for authentication purposes, but that will also open a modal dialog the user has to confirm.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Re: Opera Touch is a solid alternative to Safari on the iPhone
#60After the recent Chrome debacles, I removed it from my systems (not that I was using it much before). On iOS, my go to browser is Firefox Focus, a single tab browser that you treat as a private tab and erase quickly when you're done. It comes with a built in ad blocker too. Next in line for my use are Brave and Firefox. They're different, have good interfaces, and support multiple tabs. Last on my list is Safari. The…
On Android, at least, I could install and happily use uBlock Origin on Firefox.