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Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also includes being a first responder to accidents. And watching over the cleanup of said accidents. People burned alive in cars. Children strewn across highways. And knowing every violation stop is a potential end to your life. Who knows who that driver is and what they're going to do? Do I want the job? No thanks. They're more than welcome to those salaries for what they deal with.

True, however EMTs get paid less and see similar things, as do volunteer firemen earning $0 in my part of Pennsylvania. FWIW in most areas police are statistically less likely to die a violent death than the populace at large.

  > FWIW in most areas police are statistically less
  > likely to die a violent death than the populace at large.
[Citation Needed]

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's quite simple. If I'm a taxpayer in California, I want to know how my tax dollars are being spent. Specifically, I'd like to know why a football coach is pulling in $2M a year while state employees are being threatened with furloughs and we're running the biggest deficit ever.

The theory is that the football coach, via increased advertising dollars from a successful football program, is bringing a lot of value. Say what you will, but big college football programs pay for themselves, and then all the other sports at the college too. At least, this is what my brother, a college sports nut, tells me.

I don't doubt that could be true, and if it's true then it certainly makes sense to spend $ to generate $$.

Hopefully not a parallel to overpaid CEOs whose primary responsibility is to generate wealth for the stock holders rather than take care of the employees.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

#56
The pay of government employees, in the Bay Area at least, particularly the rank and file level are paid well beyond what they would make for similar work in the private sector. This goes for everything from meter-maids to file clerks or secretaries. The police and firefighters especially get a fantastic deal considering that they do relatively menial work that doesn't require much education or experience.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

#57
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I have two brothers that are in the Highway Patrol. Both are listed in the database. I'm pretty surprised to see the size of the increase in base pay from year to year. In their two listings, the Other category was negligible. I'm not sure what the Other category is, but it could be a calculation of the extra benefits they get that isn't paid directly to them. For example, it may be accrued time off that they save up…

Here's what my brother suggested is in the Other category:

Other= overtime, cozeep (caltrans construction overtime), mazeep (caltrans maintenance overtime), compensation time off, education incentives, motorcycle pay, bilingual, flight officer, management, etc.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

#58
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's quite simple. If I'm a taxpayer in California, I want to know how my tax dollars are being spent. Specifically, I'd like to know why a football coach is pulling in $2M a year while state employees are being threatened with furloughs and we're running the biggest deficit ever.

The theory is that the football coach, via increased advertising dollars from a successful football program, is bringing a lot of value. Say what you will, but big college football programs pay for themselves, and then all the other sports at the college too. At least, this is what my brother, a college sports nut, tells me.

It's just not advertising dollars .. they are not that much of a deal maker as far as college sports.

The success of the program and the upward trend has a major effect on these things, among others:

1) # of season tickets + individual game tickets sold 2) Seat Licenses 3) Donations to keep the tickets (e.g. My School has priority points. You need a certain # of points each year to keep the seats in the same section or get into a better section and better parking). 4) More Donations and endowed scholarships from Boosters towards infrastructure improvements or money towards the fund (viz. Nike's donation to U. Oregon, T Boone Pickens and Oklahoma State, etc.) 5) Not as significant but a successful program also leads to increase in number of applicants (esp. if the program is trending up and the exposure is increasing)

Also, The head coach might be making more than what the state paycheck comes across as .. the additional amount is either paid through an athletic funds trust or a certain percentage of advertising revenue or a certain percentage is footed by wealthy alumni

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

#59
The injury and fatality rate among police and fire employees is far below that of many other jobs like fisherman, lumberjack jobs, and basic construction work. A private in the army making 30k year will see horrendous things and experience immense stress deployed in combat. Whereas I imagine most cops will never fire their guns out on the street over the course of their entire career.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

#60
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, however EMTs get paid less and see similar things, as do volunteer firemen earning $0 in my part of Pennsylvania. FWIW in most areas police are statistically less likely to die a violent death than the populace at large.

> FWIW in most areas police are statistically less > likely to die a violent death than the populace at large. [Citation Needed]

Here is one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_officer#Occupational_haz...

quote: "Despite perceived dangers, policing has never been listed among the top ten most dangerous jobs in America. In terms of deaths per capita, driver-sales work such as pizza delivery is a more dangerous profession than being a police officer." (see reference in footnote)

Edit: I did say "less than the populace at large" ; will try to find a specific link to back this up, not just one that shows being a police officer is not as dangerous as other jobs.

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