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Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by PakG1 »

pelario wrote: post #43

As many other comments have said, the title is misleading; the key quotation is: "(...) allows anyone to portray themselves as a world-class ballerina (...)" Moreover, after AlphaGO took away Go from us, I started to wonder "what is left" for humans, and I believe that we are centuries away to have machines that achieve world class dancing level. My reasoning is than in things like Go, image or speech recognition, it…

I tried joining a dance class at my gym. I looked ridiculous. I have no confidence that I'd look as good as the coach even after a year of practice. Well, I think it helps that everyone else in the class is in much better shape than me, their moves are more... nice to look at.

Yeah, it doesn't matter if machines can't dance if I can't either. Still no job for me. :)

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by Hendrikto »

pelario wrote: post #43

As many other comments have said, the title is misleading; the key quotation is: "(...) allows anyone to portray themselves as a world-class ballerina (...)" Moreover, after AlphaGO took away Go from us, I started to wonder "what is left" for humans, and I believe that we are centuries away to have machines that achieve world class dancing level. My reasoning is than in things like Go, image or speech recognition, it…

> I believe that we are centuries away to have machines that achieve world class dancing level

People said the same about Go. There are AIs that can compose enjoyable music already.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by DrNuke »

We should think of something like a blockchain to mark all this sh*t as fake though, because in five years time there will be no way to distinguish reality from invention and we will all be under constant blackmail from malicious agents and rogue governments showing up at our door with whatever made-up accusation they want.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by Jaruzel »

apengwin wrote: post #49
ssijak wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing "artistic" in overusing autotune. It is just a tool to "mask" that that person can`t really sing at all and is overused in popular/commercial genres where there is an abundance of untalented musicians. I can`t imagine anyone saying that obvious autotuned songs sound good.

Kanye West used autotune to great effect in 808s and Heartbreak, one of the seminal albums of this century

No-one ever says Cher can't sing, but her 'Believe' song also uses Autotune in a very distinct way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uu3kCEEc98

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by Krakadero »

ssijak wrote: post #45
valtism wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The autotune you refer to as "janky and fake" is when autotune is used with intention to create that sound as an artistic syle. Autotune is used across most pop (and other) music, but in such a way that that you never realise it is there. It is similar to special effects. People complain about how bad and fake they look, but this is only for the effects that are bad enough that they are noticible. People don't realis…

There is nothing "artistic" in overusing autotune. It is just a tool to "mask" that that person can`t really sing at all and is overused in popular/commercial genres where there is an abundance of untalented musicians. I can`t imagine anyone saying that obvious autotuned songs sound good.

T-Pain is a great singer, and I'm pretty sure he's the first person a lot of people think about when they think about autotune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIjXUg1s5gc

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by dzjkb »

ssijak wrote: post #45
valtism wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The autotune you refer to as "janky and fake" is when autotune is used with intention to create that sound as an artistic syle. Autotune is used across most pop (and other) music, but in such a way that that you never realise it is there. It is similar to special effects. People complain about how bad and fake they look, but this is only for the effects that are bad enough that they are noticible. People don't realis…

There is nothing "artistic" in overusing autotune. It is just a tool to "mask" that that person can`t really sing at all and is overused in popular/commercial genres where there is an abundance of untalented musicians. I can`t imagine anyone saying that obvious autotuned songs sound good.

>I can't imagine anyone saying that obvious autotuned songs sound good.

Well just look at the status quo of popular rap music then - tons of artists are aiming for the obvious autotune style and tons of people are listening to it (so I assume they think it sounds good). I'm not sure what you mean by "artistic", but it's definitely a sound people try to achieve on purpose in their music, so I think it does deserve some recognition as "art".

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by Jaruzel »

mirimir wrote: post #47
onion2k wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who cares what you look like in some video? Everyone who watches television, movies, YouTube, etc. I know that's only a few people, but hey, it's a start.

I suppose. But then, what would be the hiring criteria? Lowest bid? Nice ass? And the focus here is "anyone", not professionals.

The biggest worry here, is where instead of hiring 20 dancers for a music video, they only hire one, and use AI to AutoDance[1] a bunch of low-cost actors instead. This could destroy the jobbing dancer-for-hire market.

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[1] AutoDance™ - Like AutoTune. I hereby claim it as a term. ;)

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by pcthrowaway »

flattone wrote: post #27
tommoor wrote: post #15

Oh man, the first company to put this in a mobile app is going to blow up. (I guess it might take a few years for the performance to get there)

Why wouldn't this be possible now?

Probably because they're not powerful enough to render the video yet.

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by Jaruzel »

xiphias wrote: post #35
saagarjha wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You appear to be shadowbanned. Most of your (reasonable-looking) comments are showing up as dead to me.

Sounds interesting, thanks! I had a few informative but controversial comments in the past... that may be the reason.

Seconded, I just had to vouch for you in the above comment to un-dead it.

Aha, it was when you said this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15725493

Re: AI Can Transform Anyone Into a Professional Dancer

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Post by throwaway8879 »

ssijak wrote: post #45
valtism wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The autotune you refer to as "janky and fake" is when autotune is used with intention to create that sound as an artistic syle. Autotune is used across most pop (and other) music, but in such a way that that you never realise it is there. It is similar to special effects. People complain about how bad and fake they look, but this is only for the effects that are bad enough that they are noticible. People don't realis…

There is nothing "artistic" in overusing autotune. It is just a tool to "mask" that that person can`t really sing at all and is overused in popular/commercial genres where there is an abundance of untalented musicians. I can`t imagine anyone saying that obvious autotuned songs sound good.

I don't understand this attitude at all. So something that doesn't seem artistic to you simply isn't artistic for anybody else because you decided that it isn't? Autotune is just another processing like reverb, delay, whatever. You think they didn't use any processing on Beatles' records? You think non-autotuned singers don't use a TC-helicon or whatever when they're performing live?

Autotuned songs can sound good, just as non-autotuned songs can sound bad. I'm as much a music elitist as anybody, but thinking that you have the one true objective idea of what music sounds good or bad is just childish.

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