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The Billionaires and The Guru: How an Indian Family Burned Through $2B

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Re: The Billionaires and The Guru: How an Indian Family Burned Through $2B

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Post by philbarr »

hycaria wrote: post #39
mcny wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that the Americans, the Brits, and the Chinese can leave any time they want. I've talked to a few Indians and that tried to defend the mob that killed some guy for allegedly coming beef. More embarrassingly, they defended the police for taking a sample of the questionable meat for lab testing to check if it was beef. I can forgive the mob. Maybe things get heated and people lose their minds. They sh…

What's this story ?

googling for "india death beef" gives you quite a few similar stories to choose from.

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Post by iamshs »

55555 wrote: post #35

Sounds to me like two indian brothers realized that a likely result of an arbitration would indirectly bankrupt their public companies so they started funneling money to a person they trust to hold onto it for them. just my 2c

This makes sense. This cult has been on a real estate buying spree near their HQ. Even threatening farmers who refuse to sell.

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Post by blntechie »

hkai wrote: post #14
xaranke wrote: post #4

As someone who left India for the US, this article gives me pause as to whether things have actually changed in shining New India or if it's just a facade with air conditioning. More specifically, I'd like to move back at some point and I'm not sure if I ever should.

You probably shouldn't. I'm in a similar situation and although back home there are all these fancy cafes, relaxed and familiar environments and great people, the significant differences become apparent only in crisis. When it comes to police, ambulance or just having safe food, safe streets and competent government, there's a sea of difference, although it's easy for me to sit at a Hard Rock Cafe back home and think…

How is the situation in Kerala different from what happened in Peurto Rico or Houston?

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Post by [deleted] »

test001only wrote: post #38

It is interesting to see Indians talking of themselves and India as a separate entity. Now, I am fine with people moving out of the country and I can understand the appeal. A lot of problems in India have been long solved in the west and there are problems which are unique to India. But it is hypocritical to blame the ills on "India" as if it exists without it's people. Citizens make a country and they are equally re…

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Post by herbst »

test001only wrote: post #38

It is interesting to see Indians talking of themselves and India as a separate entity. Now, I am fine with people moving out of the country and I can understand the appeal. A lot of problems in India have been long solved in the west and there are problems which are unique to India. But it is hypocritical to blame the ills on "India" as if it exists without it's people. Citizens make a country and they are equally re…

It's a little bit unrelated but the ugly Indian explains a bit about exactly this issue Indians seem to have, in a interesting Ted talk.

https://youtu.be/tf1VA5jqmRo

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Post by blackoil »

th1nkdifferent wrote: post #17
xaranke wrote: post #4

As someone who left India for the US, this article gives me pause as to whether things have actually changed in shining New India or if it's just a facade with air conditioning. More specifically, I'd like to move back at some point and I'm not sure if I ever should.

I don't share the negative sentiments expressed by others in response to your question. I think things have changed significantly for the better. I'll leave you with these two images - you can decide for yourself if anything has changed: https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/in... https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/in... Source: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/new-…

Really impressive, particularly growth of all those around Bangkok. Is Modi effect truly this far flung, or is NASA image just of higher resolution now showing lots of smaller dots?

Considering electricity consumption growth rate is still same or maybe a little slower then the decade before I don't see much of an achievement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_India#De...

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Post by vkerlo »

sn41 wrote: post #40
hesarenu wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That does not say much.

Sure, you're right. My original point was to point out the hypocrisy of the government policy. But you have raised a related point about IITs. Aside from being underfunded (in comparison to global standards) there are systemic issues with IITs which make it underperform in research - first, they were designed as undergraduate institutes. The administrators constantly harangue, and block the ways of the colleagues who…

It's to be mentioned that the Reliance Jio Institute is a proposed one and doesn't exist yet.

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Post by warent »

herbst wrote: post #55
test001only wrote: post #38

It is interesting to see Indians talking of themselves and India as a separate entity. Now, I am fine with people moving out of the country and I can understand the appeal. A lot of problems in India have been long solved in the west and there are problems which are unique to India. But it is hypocritical to blame the ills on "India" as if it exists without it's people. Citizens make a country and they are equally re…

It's a little bit unrelated but the ugly Indian explains a bit about exactly this issue Indians seem to have, in a interesting Ted talk. https://youtu.be/tf1VA5jqmRo

I've never heard of The Ugly Indian before and your comment came across as totally shocking to say the the least. So relieved when I saw it was his name (or the name of the movement?)

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Post by pitt1980 »

test001only wrote: post #38

It is interesting to see Indians talking of themselves and India as a separate entity. Now, I am fine with people moving out of the country and I can understand the appeal. A lot of problems in India have been long solved in the west and there are problems which are unique to India. But it is hypocritical to blame the ills on "India" as if it exists without it's people. Citizens make a country and they are equally re…

Not totally sure I understand your point, but I think that I don't agree with this at all.

In any particular country, each citizen, of course, plays their own tiny part, but ultimately, its truly a tiny part.

For the vast majority of people, they make better decisions thinking about the path of a country as an impersonal force that they can react and respond to, but have functionally no actual control over

when you aggregate the political will of 800 million people, it is largely an impersonal force

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Post by sidlls »

sokoloff wrote: post #45
mcny wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that the Americans, the Brits, and the Chinese can leave any time they want. I've talked to a few Indians and that tried to defend the mob that killed some guy for allegedly coming beef. More embarrassingly, they defended the police for taking a sample of the questionable meat for lab testing to check if it was beef. I can forgive the mob. Maybe things get heated and people lose their minds. They sh…

Why wouldn't the police take a sample of the meat for lab testing and evidence? It would seem to be a crucial piece of motive for the mob crime; it's also unlikely that the man killed was solely responsible for the entire chain of killing, butchering, and transporting the finished beef product, so other people may be implicated as well, etc.

Why would it matter whether the meat was beef or not with respect to motive? The crowd thought it was beef and beat him based on that belief; they didn't test the meat first.
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