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Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China

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Post by ngcc_hk » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 11:09 PM UTC

Kalium wrote: post #39

maxwell wrote: post #36

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Are you seriously suggesting that a censored search engine is "an opportunity to advance freedom"?

How do you think it might compare to no search engine at all? Or one controlled completely by the Communist Party? The ideal option that we'd all love to see, of the Chinese people given full and free access to uncensored and unmonitored information, is unlikely to be on offer any time soon. Refusing to meet the Communist Party's demands has only meant that control of information by the Party goes unchallenged in any…

But it is also controlled by communist. A Catholic Church by name or even sanctioned by the pope is not a real church. It just showed how powerful the communist is.

Pleasing Soviet Union never help.

Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China

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Post by ngcc_hk » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 11:11 PM UTC

repsilat wrote: post #47

mehblahwhatevs wrote: post #43

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This thinking is common that more middle-upper class people won't put up with a dictatorial regime. But isn't Singapore kind of a counter to that?

Singaporeans at least have the right to leave. Chinese people aren't even free to migrate internally. Singaporean internet access is significantly freer than Chinese. Singapore has freer markets, more rule of law. They don't have a real democracy, and there are restrictions on speech, but it's absolutely crazy to equate it with China. If China turns into Singapore as it gets richer it'll be a humanitarian miracle. Un…

Yes and even if go you are chinese first. Kidnapping foreign national in a foreign land (Thailand not just 1c2s Hk) is done.

You are chinese first even if you have other passport ...

Re: US companies giving in to pressure from China

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Post by pnw_hazor » Thu, Aug 09, 2018, 6:32 AM UTC

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #11

pnw_hazor wrote: post #9

Boeing and other traditional high-skill/tech manufacturers have been giving away their to China technology for years. CEOs/Boards/State don't care though, its all about next quarter's numbers.

Boeing doesn’t sell tech to China. They sell them planes, spare parts, they even put a finishing center in China, but no IP transfer. McDonal Douglas did sell MD80 machining tools to China, which is what the 909 is based on. However, this is only for the body, the other stuff (avionics, jet engines) are being imported.

"Over the decades, Boeing and other American companies, including General Electric, Honeywell and Rockwell Collins, have helped China to build the broad foundation necessary for an aerospace industry. That same Chinese industry is now getting close to producing its own commercial jets that could one day take much of the profitable Chinese market back from Boeing and rival Airbus."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/09/23/china...