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Impressive-- https://twitter.com/steipete/status/1025029133175336960 "They even store the brand of headphone I use. How do you even get that data, digging deep in CoreBluetooth?"

If you think about it, now it makes sense why big names in smartphone industry like Apple and Samsung are removing P2 plugs from smartphones in favor of more powerful interfaces like Lighting/USB-C: so you can track more information about the user. Just imagine: you can track which kind of phone a user that likes to listen to Heavy Metal, for example, likes to use, or which phone is more popular at the moment. Based…

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a much more mundane explanation - waterproofing. Lightning and USB-C connectors can both be made intrinsically waterproof up to IPx7, while the 3.5mm jack can't. Waterproofing is a key point of differentiation for recent flagship phones. An iPhone 7 will survive a dip in a toilet bowl or a pint of beer, but an iPhone 6 probably won't.

So all the other phone manufacturers selling IP68 phones with headphone jacks are lying?

I had a Xperia Z5 and every time water touched the headphone jack the phone would go crazy thinking that I was plugging and unplugging something repeatedly.

Re: Spotify GDPR data export: user receives 250MB containing every interaction

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Impressive-- https://twitter.com/steipete/status/1025029133175336960 "They even store the brand of headphone I use. How do you even get that data, digging deep in CoreBluetooth?"

It displays the name of bluetooth headphones in the app as a useful feature to help you pick where you want the audio to go.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think about it, now it makes sense why big names in smartphone industry like Apple and Samsung are removing P2 plugs from smartphones in favor of more powerful interfaces like Lighting/USB-C: so you can track more information about the user. Just imagine: you can track which kind of phone a user that likes to listen to Heavy Metal, for example, likes to use, or which phone is more popular at the moment. Based…

There's a much more mundane explanation - waterproofing. Lightning and USB-C connectors can both be made intrinsically waterproof up to IPx7, while the 3.5mm jack can't. Waterproofing is a key point of differentiation for recent flagship phones. An iPhone 7 will survive a dip in a toilet bowl or a pint of beer, but an iPhone 6 probably won't.

> while the 3.5mm jack can't

Of course it can. It's just 3 or 4 wire connections, and an insertion switch.

Why do you think it can't be made waterproof? It's even easier than USB-C to waterproof.

A simple google search "waterproof 3.5mm socket" find tons of results.

Re: Spotify GDPR data export: user receives 250MB containing every interaction

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Impressive-- https://twitter.com/steipete/status/1025029133175336960 "They even store the brand of headphone I use. How do you even get that data, digging deep in CoreBluetooth?"

If you think about it, now it makes sense why big names in smartphone industry like Apple and Samsung are removing P2 plugs from smartphones in favor of more powerful interfaces like Lighting/USB-C: so you can track more information about the user. Just imagine: you can track which kind of phone a user that likes to listen to Heavy Metal, for example, likes to use, or which phone is more popular at the moment. Based…

There is a lot of conjecture happening here. I'm sure it doesn't hurt to know data about headphones but I'm having doubts that's the primary motivator.

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Frankly, I think a lot of this data isn't the users, but rather Spotify's. If Spotify didn't exist then the interaction data with it wouldn't exist. I don't see how it can possibly be "owned" only by the user here. Does a user "own" security footage in a store that they enter? Definitely not.

If the user didn't use Spotify, then the interaction data wouldn't exist. It takes two. Perhaps if these companies had taken that tact (mutual ownership), then there'd have been no need for a law to specifically allow users to get the data created with their own effort.

If I write down every song that I play through Spotify for a year. Does Spotify own that?

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What grand times we live in, where you can actually get this kind of data from the services that you use. Having the law say your personal data is owned by you and not some company just because it's on their server may turn out to be a landmark in consumer friendly legislation!

Frankly, I think a lot of this data isn't the users, but rather Spotify's. If Spotify didn't exist then the interaction data with it wouldn't exist. I don't see how it can possibly be "owned" only by the user here. Does a user "own" security footage in a store that they enter? Definitely not.

Kind of: https://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Data-Protection-CCTV/242....

You can make a subject access request for CCTV footage.

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