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Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by orbifold »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #31
gallerdude wrote: post #11

Hopefully, this means we’ve reached some critical mass of Mac apps moving over. Because the iPad is the future of computing, much the same way the GUI superseded text interfaces.

After some initial craze in the first years, I rarely even see an iPad (or any other tablet) in the wild anymore. Smartphones getting bigger seem to have already replaced them.

It is a really valuable tool for knowledge workers. If you study medicine for example a lot of courses provide you with tons of slides with low information density. The last thing you want to do is carry them around as printed out stacks of paper. You need to be able to annotate them and draw little diagrams on them. For that an IPad Pro is perfect.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by hrktb »

memsom wrote: post #8

Didn’t they try this before? I had a copy of the Photoshop Touch(?) app previously. It was on iOS and Android. I think it was 32bit though, so no chance it still works on iOS.

It was very very limited and clunky. Perhaps they later added more Adobe Cloud integration, but that alone wouldn’t help much.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by Tomte »

heavymark wrote: post #44
Tomte wrote: post #16

Affinity Photo on the iPad made quite a splash and was Apple's software of the year in some category. I guess it showed Adobe that there is real money to be made. And Affinity Designer for iPad has just been released.

I imagine it's less about money to be made but rather about fearing money to lose. Affinity offering a more and more well rounded solution with their Photoshop, Illustrator and now upcoming Indesign competitor, most of which are already on iPad today. With a Lightroom competitor in the works, I imagine Adobe is worried people will leave them completely for Affinity because of some customer's hatred of the subscriptio…

They sorely need the asset manager they‘re already working on. I would have prioritized that over Designer, because it‘s holding many people back from leaving Lightroom for Photo.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by scarface74 »

emsy wrote: post #27

I'm an iOS user. But frankly, iOS sucks for this kind of work. I tried. Copy pasting is slow, file handling is unnecesserily clunky (just give me a file browser Apple). And exporting always needs some kind of workaround because I can't just pop in USB drives (which my wife's Surface Pro gladly accepts).

What do you expect from a file browser that the current document picker interface doesn’t give you? The one missing feature I see is that you can’t just attach a USB storage device and it shows up as a source along with Dropbox, ICloud Drive, OneDrive, etc.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by scarface74 »

orev wrote: post #13
liamk wrote: post #10

Porting photoshop to iOS/ARM could also in part be motivated by a known or perceived Apple transition from Intel to their own ARM chips.

This sounds most likely to me. Port to IOS on ARM coupled with the rumors of IOS APIs being added to MacOS. Sounds like a first step to ARM migration overall.

It’s not a rumor. Apple announced they were doing just that at WWDC and they showed two or three apps ported from iOS to the next release of MacOS.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by matthewmacleod »

cecja wrote: post #40
matthewmacleod wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, not sure it's that clear-cut. The iPad can almost certainly handle massive images just fine. The industry has been getting by with that sort of processing power for some time. I can't comment on support for 10k images specifically, but 4k video editing works pretty well, and 30MP+ images too (so 8k-ish?). And while there's a segment of pro work that needs 10k+ support, it's not everything – just because the whol…

It is a pretty clear cut we are talking about 16bit images not 8bit. When my workstation with 64gb ram is coughing an ipad will die under the load. Just don't call it PRO.

Honestly I think your definition of "pro" is far too narrow to be useful.

It's plainly obvious that not every professional user requires support for multi-gigabyte image files. I've never even used a workstation with 64GB of memory, despite being a professional Photoshop user for a long time.

Just a bit of a silly thing to complain about, really.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by raverbashing »

kgraves wrote: post #29

Well that's disappointing :(, I would have expected the full Photoshop experience to be ported to the web instead, not in Apple's locked garden. Sigh.

Browsers don't have the power or the speed to run the most demanding loads that Photoshop require (especially without using more memory than needed)

At some point you really need to manipulate image data (from/to disk) in weird ways that's just not possible in a browser

Try opening a .jpg file that's bigger than available memory in PS and see how that goes (harder now as memory is not so constrained) as opposed to other softwares

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by matthewmacleod »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #39
cecja wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a pro tool. It is called PRO like Windows 10 PRO there is no way an ipad can handle pro resolution (10k+). The input methods available right now are not fit to do pro work.

Exactly. From gf's experience, doing her many-layers/high-resolution work even in older Photoshop versions on RAM lower than 16GB is a nightmare. At 16GB it barely starts to be usable. We're working on a 2D game. Some years ago, when PCs had lower amounts of RAM, games didn't even had to include full HD assets. These days you may even target 4K. While you're at such resolution already, you may even go a bit further a…

That's a really specific case. But the idea that a heavily multicore device with gigabytes of RAM is suitable only for "occasional, amateur editing" is just laughable.

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Post by mattkevan »

Tomte wrote: post #16

Affinity Photo on the iPad made quite a splash and was Apple's software of the year in some category. I guess it showed Adobe that there is real money to be made. And Affinity Designer for iPad has just been released.

And Affinity apps are astonishingly good value for what they are.

Designer on iOS is currently £13, with no subscription.

Adobe should be worried. It’s the first real competition they’ve had in years, especially as their iOS apps are pretty much junk.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by hug »

emsy wrote: post #27

I'm an iOS user. But frankly, iOS sucks for this kind of work. I tried. Copy pasting is slow, file handling is unnecesserily clunky (just give me a file browser Apple). And exporting always needs some kind of workaround because I can't just pop in USB drives (which my wife's Surface Pro gladly accepts).

You say you tried, but it sounds to me like you didn't try hard enough.

I'm a hobbyist photographer, and I do the vast majority of my photography work on a 9.7" iPad pro, with a Pencil. I'm constantly editing 24mp RAW files in Affinity Photo, which is about as close to full-fat Photoshop running on the iPad as you can possibly get, and let me tell you: It's fantastic.

I turn on my camera, I shoot some images. I open up Cascable, which connects to my camera's wifi, and I pull down some images. I flip through them and find one I like, the one I want to edit, so I click on that one and click "share", and then select Affinity Photo.

Affinity Photo opens. It's 95% of the power of desktop photoshop, albeit organised in subtly different ways. I do the things I would normally do: White balance, HSL, blemish touchup and even frequency separation. I click export, and save to camera roll.

It's in the camera roll, and I select it, and I share it over email to some friends, and to discord, and to instagram.

I don't get where the problem is.

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