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Living with a best-selling Indian phone for 10 days

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Re: Living with a best-selling Indian phone for 10 days

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iPhone User with a $900 phone switches to a $60 phone and frustrated that it doesn't perform as well a $900 phone while trying to use it like a Premium phone? I am surprised :).

Wow, way to belittle an interesting article. And if you mean not performing well, as being able to run 4 apps, I guess you have a point.

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I did an experiment similar to this a few years back, but I lasted about six months. After touchscreen on my iPhone 6 Plus died prematurely two days after the warranty expired, and neither Apple nor Verizon would help, I decided to simply forgo owning a smartphone for a while. I used one on WiFi only, and went back to an LCD flip phone from 2002. This worked great, except people kept complaining that they couldn’t te…

I still use the 64GB iPhone 4S that my dad gave me as a graduation present in 2011. It's great: nice camera, USB sync, Third Rail battery case, small screen, enough space for offline maps/music/Wikipedia and 300+ apps, and lots of jailbreak tweaks including OS downgrading. I bought a used 32GB iPhone 5 from my friend who wanted to get rid of it, but I prefer my 4S for daily use (including this comment).

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I remember buying a burner phone in India once and it hurt my ears when I received calls. It turned out the phone only had one loudness setting which was at a level able to pierce through the din of Mumbai. Ear bleedingly loud.

I just hold my phone at half an arms length from my ear in quiet conditions.

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The problem here is mostly the piece of s* Android OS. 1gb of storage is enough for a complete OS(100mb) and user files. 256mb ram and 500mhz single core is enough to drive a good OS without very much latency. And we only need a few functionalities (communicate and record) ... The 1000000 apps are a symptom we are confused about how computers work best. In time, we will have to figure this out, or we will have deserved to lose this tech.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear that, but there’s something instructive here as well for members of the HN community who write software. Namely, it’s that sometimes performance and optimization matter. Given the size of the Indian / developing world market, I wonder if there’s an opportunity to provide a good experience (apps or OS) on more meager hardware. I certainly don’t remember the first gen iPhone being painful or slow. Why can’t we m…

I think there's just a problem with software nowadays. I bought a 2005 PowerBook G4 for nostalgia's sake, and ended up finding out that even if I push the CPU of the poor thing to the max by compiling GCC and downloading stuff, it still manages to have smoother animations than my maxed out quad-core i7-powered Dell XPS 15: https://twitter.com/SilverEzhik/status/1017622599696896001

Try installing OpenBSD (or even Xubuntu) with XFCE on that i7 Dell. It’ll fly. Resource sipping, featureful software exists.

Re: Living with a best-selling Indian phone for 10 days

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Great article I'm glad to see at least one tech giant is (attempting) to cater towards low-end smart phones: https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/27/instagram-lite/

Google has been doing similar things as well with their "Go" series of apps. Relaunching web app wrappers as lightweight apps is nothing new.

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> According to data from app analytics firm App Annie, Indians spend 36% of their screentime on communication (like WhatsApp), 20% on video players (like YouTube), and 16% on social networking (Facebook).

I wonder how much of that is self fulfilling due to the low powered devices?

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The problem here is mostly the piece of s * Android OS. 1gb of storage is enough for a complete OS(100mb) and user files. 256mb ram and 500mhz single core is enough to drive a good OS without very much latency. And we only need a few functionalities (communicate and record) ... The 1000000 apps are a symptom we are confused about how computers work best. In time, we will have to figure this out, or we will have deser…

Or in general, blame software bloat and the developers who push this sordid movement of inefficiency upon everyone else.

A 1.3GHz quad-core with 512MB of RAM should be plenty powerful for what people use smartphones for; it wasn't too long ago when the typical desktop PC was around that specification (albeit only a single core) --- and yet, people used them for watching videos, VoIP/IM/video chat, and otherwise most of the things that smartphones would usually be used for today. At least, I could remember doing those things comfortably on a 733MHz PIII with 256MB of RAM.

Scrolling through my Twitter timeline was a stuttering, jerky mess, despite Twitter's claims to “load quickly on slower connections.”

I absolutely do not fathom how we got to the point where basic functionality like displaying some text and images seems to take far more processing power than they did years ago, and yet no one notices and tries to put a stop to it.

IMHO something is very wrong when apps that do seemingly trivial things are multiple megabytes; surely one does not need millions of bytes of code to open a browser window to a website or implement IM functionality, for example. When software came on floppies, size was measured in kilobytes and a 1MB app was huge and accordingly did quite a lot.

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iPhone User with a $900 phone switches to a $60 phone and frustrated that it doesn't perform as well a $900 phone while trying to use it like a Premium phone? I am surprised :).

I went through that process. After I stopped buy good phones subsidized by the phone company & started paying full retail phones upfront, I became less interested in having a top of the line phone. I just don't wanna fork out $900 for any phone. I bought two versions of a sub-$100 phone, they both sucked and/or were defective in some way. I bought a $240, and it was OK, but I was constantly fishing for an excuse to g…

I also am on a non-subsidised plan and have messed around with cheap phones in the past, with similar experiences. However one thing I've found that eases a good phone's price tag is buying used, through a site like Swappa or Glyde (what I have experience with). Having a hundred plus dollar discount on something that's lightly used is quite helpful, especially considering that if I were to buy new I'd just void the warrantee with rooting anyways.

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This is probably an extreme example to use Bharat 2(which most considers a failed project) and using light apps on top of that. Choosing a budget phone does not mean choosing the cheapest one. Honestly i don't know anyone who uses the phone they mentioned, more phones from Honor or Xiaomi or Moto etc are more common. Its hard for me to have exact data on this, so this is just based on my experience.

It was a best selling phone in India last year. People are using it, just not people in your social circle.

I too have never seen anybody using it in at least North India. In fact, I never ever heard anyone even talking about it. Unlike many people here, I am actually very close to rural life in India and I couldn't spot this phone. South India may be?

I don't know how it was the best selling phone in India.

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