Reminds me of Guag.es https://get.gaug.es/ or https://haveamint.com/ if you want to dig into the crates a bit.
Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
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Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
#52Out of curiosity, and as someone who has never used website analytics: why do we need a third party for this? Couldn't a bit of client side code + server side code do all the work these days?
Do you want a customer or a slave? If you sell software, you have a customer that can do whatever they like. If you provide SAAS you can tie in the user more and more.
that depends on if you offer data extraction to your users. If you intentionally make it impossible to users to take away their data when they leave, that's a shady move.
Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
#53I really like the idea of a non-intrusive analytics system that just shows you useful aggregate traffic data while maintaining the privacy of your site's visitors.
I experimented with using GoAccess (https://goaccess.io) on CloudFront logs instead of using Google Analytics. It gave me a lot of what I needed, without the overhead or intrusiveness of client-side code—and it provided a more complete view of my traffic because it isn't stymied by browser plugins that block tracking.
The downside was having to save the logs, periodically run it to generate reports, etc. It's not a lot of work, but it's more work than GA. I think CDN providers should just include managed analytics tools of this caliber as either part of the package or for a modest extra fee.
Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
#54Out of curiosity, and as someone who has never used website analytics: why do we need a third party for this? Couldn't a bit of client side code + server side code do all the work these days?
To save time. Same reason you use Sendgrid or any other SaaS
Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
#55This gives me an appreciation for the "lurkers" on HN. This post has 109 points and 53 comments, right now, and on their stats demo it shows 2,770 unique views from hacker news.
Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
#56This gives me an appreciation for the "lurkers" on HN. This post has 109 points and 53 comments, right now, and on their stats demo it shows 2,770 unique views from hacker news.
Fair or not I kinda want to blame the lurkers every time I see a post skyrocket quickly that has a flashy title but the content is bad and all the comments point out how bad it is....
Yay lurkers!
Boo lurkers!
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's admittedly confusing, but I think I'm still right and that you may be conflating policies about other google services. From your second link, which is specific to Analytics, it says: > What is the data used for? > Google uses Google Analytics data to provide the Google Analytics measurement service to customers. Identifiers such as cookies and app instance IDs are used to measure user interactions with a custome…
I think it does, because I recall years ago their privacy policy explicitly saying that they don't use GA data for any other purposes. I don't have a source to back that up, but I've noticed that their privacy policy has grown to be somewhat labyrinthine since then, and I couldn't find that explicit statement anymore.
If you and I had a legal document that stated I owed you a box of cookies every week, and one day you noticed that clause was gone from our revised agreement, what do you suppose your odds are of getting any cookies from me next year?
Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
#58Out of curiosity, and as someone who has never used website analytics: why do we need a third party for this? Couldn't a bit of client side code + server side code do all the work these days?
You can self-host Fathom, I do. It's very basic compared to Piwik, but it runs on PostgreSQL, my DB of choice, and it's written in Go, not PHP, which means it has higher performance and is more secure.
Go is not inherently more secure than PHP.
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#59Hey, author here (one of 2).
Whoa, I did not expect to see Fathom show up on Hacker News. It's very early but our plan is indeed to go down a similar road as Matomo, albeit more opinionated. Hopefully resulting in a simpler product in the long run.
I feel it's important to point out out that with Fathom, no personal information is tracked (or stored), at all. Only daily and hourly aggregates are stored on the server.
And yes, the demo should not require you to enter credentials. The simple reason is that I haven't gotten to polishing that experience just yet. Sorry.
Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics
#60This gives me an appreciation for the "lurkers" on HN. This post has 109 points and 53 comments, right now, and on their stats demo it shows 2,770 unique views from hacker news.
Also, note that HN links appear in a lot more places than the HN homepage. For example, there are countless Twitter accounts that automatically tweet HN links above some number of upvotes.