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Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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I think it's time for someone to invent Uber Walk: someone physically picks you up and carries you to your destination

not novel enough; the romans did that thousands of years ago

You mean the litter chairs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_(vehicle)#Antiquity

Funny name, given how the scooters are regarded. Edit: Just saw this comment after I posted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17491873

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

#52

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No they aren't, they're probably saving downtown Austin's transportation woes. Decades of failed resolutions by the city council to provide expanded public transportations for an extremely high growth city have brought us to this point, one where the market had to come up with a solution. I'd imagine more regulations are probably due in the near future.

The scooters definitely aren't "ruining Austin" but they're not "saving" it from transportation woes either. The percentage of drivers who live close enough to downtown to hop on a scooter instead of taking car is pretty small. For example, only 4% of Austin commuters live within 2 miles of their workplace [0]. Commuters in Westlake and P-Ville, etc. are definitely NOT trading in their cars to get on a scooter (if yo…

You don't understand marginal improvements and how they ramp up?

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Just the bikes and scooters? Not, say, the idle cars left on streets all over town?

Cars are at least parked in designated spots/areas. Dockless bikes and scooters don't have a designated space to park in; they have to be left on the sidewalk, and they can be dropped anywhere.

One man's "placed in designated spots" is another man's "dumped on the side of the road"

I honestly think we are just used to seeing idle cars all over the place that we don't "notice" them. There's no reason scooters won't be able to "blend in" in the same way over time.

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They're not typically "left on streets", but in designated parking spots, with specific rules and guidelines in place.

The designated parking spots are typically on the streets. If there were no surface parking most roads would have two more lanes.

That's a silly argument. They have to be connected to the streets, unless you want to limit parking to off-road 4WD vehicles. They're adjacent to the street.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

#55

I think it's time for someone to invent Uber Walk: someone physically picks you up and carries you to your destination

I would totally download an app that listed people in my area beneath my stated weight threshold who wanted piggyback rides.

However, it should prevent you from changing your weight threshold more than once every 2 days. Otherwise, you'd be able to binary-search to find random people's weights.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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The designated parking spots are typically on the streets. If there were no surface parking most roads would have two more lanes.

That's a silly argument. They have to be connected to the streets, unless you want to limit parking to off-road 4WD vehicles. They're adjacent to the street.

Look at how Tokyo does it. Almost no parking along streets.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Cars are at least parked in designated spots/areas. Dockless bikes and scooters don't have a designated space to park in; they have to be left on the sidewalk, and they can be dropped anywhere.

This is such a boondoggle. I rarely see any birds, lime bikes, orange bikes, ofos, etc. parked in places other than off to the side of the sidewalk, or in a bike rack. When I do, I move them. Most people, generally speaking, are good people. They put bikes where they're supposed to be, they put scooters where they're supposed to be etc. It isn't just enlightened tech commenters who know that a bike should go in a bik…

This might be the case for where you live, but I've see dozens of Lime bikes recently around the Boston area (not in Boston proper, but in Cambridge, Somerville, Chelsea, Everett, etc.) that are just on sidewalks. The main problem is that there aren't really a ton of bike racks around. Usually when I bike somewhere, even in Boston proper, I have to search for a bit to find a bike rack. I imagine it's similar for other cities that don't really have the existing bike rack infrastructure.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Cars are at least parked in designated spots/areas. Dockless bikes and scooters don't have a designated space to park in; they have to be left on the sidewalk, and they can be dropped anywhere.

This is such a boondoggle. I rarely see any birds, lime bikes, orange bikes, ofos, etc. parked in places other than off to the side of the sidewalk, or in a bike rack. When I do, I move them. Most people, generally speaking, are good people. They put bikes where they're supposed to be, they put scooters where they're supposed to be etc. It isn't just enlightened tech commenters who know that a bike should go in a bik…

You must not live in San Francisco, where I saw multiple scooters every day parked in the middle of sidewalks or otherwise in the way of pedestrians. Until the city temporarily banned them.

These scooters need docking stations and the users parking them illegally need to be handed hefty fines, just as a motorist would be fined for parking their car illegally.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

#59

These scooters are a menace in Oakland -- people are riding them down crowded sidewalks at 20 MPH

I don't know about Oakland, but in Boston these wouldn't be legal to ride on the sidewalk. Hell, they're barely legal to ride in the bike lane (only motorized vehicles that can't exceed 35 mph and that make a motor smaller than a certain size). Combine that with the fact that most riders won't be wearing helmets and it's a potentially deadly accident waiting to happen.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

#60
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This partnership could also allow Uber driver partners to basically have another source of income - rebalancing the scooter/bike network and helping with charging (ex. someone drives for Uber Eats, drops off a scooter at pickup restaurant to charge). Current Lime freelance chargers are making ~$1400 earnings per month[1] so this could start being substantial and help the growth for both companies [1] https://www.axio…

That $1400/month number strikes me as dubious. They mention the charger earns $30-50/day. Assuming a standard 22-day work month, $1400 would have to be $63/day. A more realistic number seems to be $40 * 22 days, or $880/month. Which is not a lot of money in the expensive cities Lime is active in.
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