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Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by hinkley » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:14 PM UTC

mieseratte wrote: post #49

jmngomes wrote: post #40

Something that puzzled me: "the majority of hiring managers say they make no distinction between bootcamp vs. college graduates" While the bulk of work at a lot of enterprises (banks, telcos, etc) are CRUD apps with some BPM, I did not expect a (hiring) manager to be unable to make such a simple distinction. Hopefully it could be the case that 'we don't discriminate based on that' is simply the polite/legal thing to…

> "the majority of hiring managers say they make no distinction between bootcamp vs. college graduates" Since the industry norm is "You're all equally worthless until proven otherwise" I don't find it all that surprising. They'll take in your resume and toss you into the pipeline / grinder and if make it through the crucible unscathed, well, congrats you'll get a job offer! Being neither a college nor a bootcamp grad…

Yeah. The worst code camp people have been some of the worst programmers I've ever had to work with. But at the high end? The distinction in success rate is fuzzier.

Several of my most promising mentees came out of code camps. It convinces me of something I already 'knew': that good instincts don't come from a college education, they come from life. But a university will weed out a lot of dilettantes...

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by drenvuk » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:16 PM UTC

This is a nice breakdown but the most interesting thing I see is keeping the statistics to themselves by posting them to the site as svgs, not images and not text. You can't highlight them for copypasting even though a screenshot will work but you can't right click for saving to an image either. Thanks for the technique.

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by bryanlarsen » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:18 PM UTC

styfle wrote: post #5

brightball wrote: post #3

> Serverless computing is in a much earlier stage of adoption, with nearly half of developers failing to clearly understand what it is. I've seen this called Function as a Service and honestly I think using that term instead of Serverless would go a long way to fixing this issue because 1) it clearly communicates what it is 2) there's not actually such thing as serverless since the functions are still running on serv…

Also it fits in nicely with the other naming conventions such as the following: - Software as a Service (SaaS) - a product such as GitHub or Slack - Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) - VM or LB as you find in Azure or AWS or Digital Ocean - Platform as a Service (PaaS) - sometimes called Container as a Service as you find in Heroku or Zeit Now - Function as as Service (FaaS) - a single function as you find in Lambda

Technically CaaS could be IaaS, if you're just using containers as lightweight VM substitutes.

Practically CaaS tends to be PaaS, because the hosting service is also providing a platform such as Kubernetes.

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:18 PM UTC

kbar13 wrote: post #44

peterwwillis wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a secondary problem: when there are more resources, application development becomes less efficient over time. Even though there will be less infrequently used resources, the applications will use up resources more frequently in an inefficient way. Example: I now need a minimum of 4GB RAM to browse the web, which is insane. 15 years ago my computer had 128MB RAM and I was browsing the web at approximately the…

if you have the resources use them? 15 years ago your browser had a small fraction of the features a modern browser provides. this argument is tiring.

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Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by quadrature » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:25 PM UTC

drenvuk wrote: post #52

This is a nice breakdown but the most interesting thing I see is keeping the statistics to themselves by posting them to the site as svgs, not images and not text. You can't highlight them for copypasting even though a screenshot will work but you can't right click for saving to an image either. Thanks for the technique.

I'm not sure that was the intention. It's easier to cater to different screen resolutions with a vector format. You can always take a screenshot if you want or link to the article.

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by golangnews » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:27 PM UTC

abledon wrote: post #9

Has anyone chosen digital ocean over aws/gcp/aZure when building a scalable setup (for pricing reasons). Eg setting up your own load balancers/ private master slave dB machines / bunch of ansible to organize it all.

yes I've done that - been pretty happy so far.

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by drenvuk » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:30 PM UTC

quadrature wrote: post #55

drenvuk wrote: post #52

This is a nice breakdown but the most interesting thing I see is keeping the statistics to themselves by posting them to the site as svgs, not images and not text. You can't highlight them for copypasting even though a screenshot will work but you can't right click for saving to an image either. Thanks for the technique.

I'm not sure that was the intention. It's easier to cater to different screen resolutions with a vector format. You can always take a screenshot if you want or link to the article.

I did make an assumption that shouldn't have been made, my apologies. I still think this is a cool effect that it can be used for.

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by clarkmoody » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:31 PM UTC

aphextron wrote: post #45

>Ninety-four percent of our respondents self-identified as men, 5 percent as women, and 1 percent as non-binary/other. Seems like this survey was highly self selective, so I'd take the entire thing with a grain of salt. There's no way the industry as a whole is anywhere near 96% male.

This stood out to me as well. How the survey respondents were selected could have had a huge impact on the demographics.

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by Illniyar » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:41 PM UTC

So it's the result of a survey? That's a bit disappointing. Quarterly report makes me think it'll be extrapolated from DigitalOcean's usage metrics. Surely some of the things, such as containers could be inferred from real usage.

Also, unlike stackoverflow, if the respondents were DigitalOcean users I would imagine some things would be considerably skewed - for instance the popularity of "Serverless". I assume that since DigitalOcean doesn't offer serverless products people who use serverless aren't on DigitalOcean.

Re: DigitalOcean’s quarterly report on developer trends in the cloud

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Post by jfim » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 5:44 PM UTC

aphextron wrote: post #45

>Ninety-four percent of our respondents self-identified as men, 5 percent as women, and 1 percent as non-binary/other. Seems like this survey was highly self selective, so I'd take the entire thing with a grain of salt. There's no way the industry as a whole is anywhere near 96% male.

> There's no way the industry as a whole is anywhere near 96% male.

What do you think is the correct percentage? 96% seems reasonably close to the anecdotal gender ratio (~1/35 students being female) of undergrads from when I was in university a long time ago.