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Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

Your bank will likely not let you in if you're wearing a hat or sunglasses. "No shoes, no shirt, no service" has also been a thing for as long as convenience stores have been around. Not that far of a stretch to think this will ultimately extend to face paint. If you want true anonymity, just wear a motorcyle helmet everywhere. We still don't know who The Stig is.

I thought we learned who the first Stig was, out of show, and then they replaced him with someone else. I seem to recall reading that here a few years back.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Once this technique becomes more widespread, get ready for laws that make it illegal to fool facial recognition, similar to wearing masks, etc.

I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

Mask laws were in place in some areas with a historic Ku Klux Klan presence.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Checked the cvdazzle site. Why do these models - and models on "high fashion" photos in general - look always like they feel deep contempt towards the viewer? Where did this trope come from? What are they trying to suggest? I don't get it.

They're trying to have a neutral face so it doesn't distract from what they're modelling.

But it's not a neutral face. It's a face of disdain and contempt.

This is a neutral face: https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/a...

And this is the face of disdain I'm talking about: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGkhmT...

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Face recognition is a great example of a privacy-toxic technology thwarted by something like GDPR. As soon as you cross the line from mass recording of anonymous images to recognizing individuals, even in a public space, you require consent. The only problem is that the main users of face recognition, security agencies and government are not subject to GDPR - that needs to be restricted in a future version because to…

> Face recognition is a great example of a privacy-toxic technology thwarted by something like GDPR [...] security agencies and government are not subject to GDPR.

Sounds to me like it is the opposite and implicitly condones its use by excluding those organizations. The larger the law-built divide between government rights and non-government rights becomes, the less likely any of us entrepreneurs will be able to counteract it. Next, people will be cheering a law that prevents people from developing facial recognition technology.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

I strongly support anti-mask laws... especially in situations when you have two political opponents coming up to one another in the streets. Masks make it way too easy for some kind of provocateur to instigate fights or start a stampede. And this may be egged on my professional dark PR/intelligence people to make one side or another look good/bad.

It's a tough thing to defend on legal grounds because you have to explain how mask laws don't violate the first amendment. There could be some justification that would hold up, but as far as I know the issue hasn't gone before the Supreme Court.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #51

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Your bank will likely not let you in if you're wearing a hat or sunglasses. "No shoes, no shirt, no service" has also been a thing for as long as convenience stores have been around. Not that far of a stretch to think this will ultimately extend to face paint. If you want true anonymity, just wear a motorcyle helmet everywhere. We still don't know who The Stig is.

I thought we learned who the first Stig was, out of show, and then they replaced him with someone else. I seem to recall reading that here a few years back.

A couple of Stigs actually have been revealed per the Wiki on the character -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stig -- Perry McCarthy (black Stig) and Ben Collins (first white Stig). Both were revealed out of show of course.

We don't know who the current Stig is and it's entirely possible in my opinion that there have been "stand in Stigs" as well. Obscuring the face with a tinted-shield racing helmet eliminates a big method people tell others apart. You'd have to rely on clues like height / build instead. Makes it easier to swap out drivers for that character.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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post #52

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I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

Mask laws were in place in some areas with a historic Ku Klux Klan presence.

Yep, which shows why some of the recent push to criminalize hate speech is problematic: it's used to target fringe groups most people don't like now, but in the future it could be used against anyone else, similar to how mask laws have been used against protesters more recently.
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