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Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by Reason077 »

dingaling wrote: post #42
detaro wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Manufacturers of electric vehicles already are rolling out noise generators for low speeds, and it's likely those will become mandatory.

A friend's Renault Zoe EV has a 'whoosh' noise generator which thankfully can be disabled in the fusebox. To me it would be more sensible to only trigger a noise generator upon feedback from the parking sensors, instead of polluting the environment with constant sci-fi noises.

Noise generators for EVs are required, or soon to be required, in the EU and USA.

Acoustic Vehicle Alert System (AVAS): https://www.interregs.com/articles/spotlight/eu-updates-requ...

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by Reason077 »

dazc wrote: post #44
mcjiggerlog wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Over 3 years in Spain and no plans to return to Brexitlandia. The UK has it's good points, but better quality of life can be found elsewhere.

I lived for 3 years in Spain and while I miss cheap rent and cheap public transport I don't miss the noise and bad manners.

Noise levels can be pretty bad in big UK cities too. Especially London. Too many extra-loud modified motorbikes, too many overflying Heathrow planes. But yes, British people are for the most part polite!

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by Reason077 »

Tade0 wrote: post #49
icebraining wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The noise inside the bus seems quite annoying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEKJSMqhYKk

I've been in one of these. The noise is noticeable but not nearly as offensive as a diesel bus engine revving. Also there's no idling that would normally cause vibrations.

Yes, it's a much more relaxing ride compared to a diesel bus. Smooth and quiet.

The noise seems to be exaggerated somewhat in that video - in real life it's pretty subtle.

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by lurcio »

growlist wrote: post #23
tom_ wrote: post #3

Most interesting part of the article for me: > and being of considerable utility, they are remarkably undamaged. It seems that sticking chewing gum in things only applies when the vandal feels they wont personally lose out (assuming this is actually true, and not another in a long local tradition of overly rose-tinted journalistic views of our grim North Sea shithole)

So awful there are still plentiful migrants banging on the door to be let in.

Not really, when you see the data http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/tgm/table.do?tab=table&init=1&l...

UK is not a particularly attractive destination for either economic/humanitarian reasons compared to Germany/Italy etc.

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by growlist »

lurcio wrote: post #54
growlist wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So awful there are still plentiful migrants banging on the door to be let in.

Not really, when you see the data http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/tgm/table.do?tab=table&init=1&l... UK is not a particularly attractive destination for either economic/humanitarian reasons compared to Germany/Italy etc.

You are the one making that comparison, not me, and that's only for asylum seekers. Net migration to the UK is still near historic highs, with migration from outside the EU actually increasing, and the predicted exodus of EU migrants far smaller than was forecast. The UK is still a dream destination for many migrants.

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by [deleted] »

1ba9115454 wrote: post #4
tom_ wrote: post #3

Most interesting part of the article for me: > and being of considerable utility, they are remarkably undamaged. It seems that sticking chewing gum in things only applies when the vandal feels they wont personally lose out (assuming this is actually true, and not another in a long local tradition of overly rose-tinted journalistic views of our grim North Sea shithole)

- grim North Sea shithole Spend some time in other coutries and you'll yearn to return. Trust me.

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Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by growlist »

mcjiggerlog wrote: post #39
1ba9115454 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- grim North Sea shithole Spend some time in other coutries and you'll yearn to return. Trust me.

Over 3 years in Spain and no plans to return to Brexitlandia. The UK has it's good points, but better quality of life can be found elsewhere.

Not much QOL though if you're one of the millions of unemployed.

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by walshemj »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #8

> Londoners might not dream of electric buses, … Every single cyclist dreams of electric busses, believe you me. Huffing nitrogen stationary-bus-fart oxides turns any public road here straight into an express lane to lung cancer, without even the courtesy of a nicotine rush. I laugh when people say cycling is healthy. Not in London. Nooo sir. Between the long term certainty of whatever smokers like to aim for, and th…

Seconded if you have ever been cycling behind a badly maintained diesel buss and had to stop because of the fumes half way up a hill you will empathise.

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by walshemj »

jeffwass wrote: post #14
nothrabannosir wrote: post #8

> Londoners might not dream of electric buses, … Every single cyclist dreams of electric busses, believe you me. Huffing nitrogen stationary-bus-fart oxides turns any public road here straight into an express lane to lung cancer, without even the courtesy of a nicotine rush. I laugh when people say cycling is healthy. Not in London. Nooo sir. Between the long term certainty of whatever smokers like to aim for, and th…

As a London pedestrian I am fully in favour of electric buses. The NoX fumes are horrible for pedestrians too. Especially when the buses are stacked one after another, idling. I seriously can’t believe the government refuses to act on the diesel disaster. Tens of thousands of people die from diesel exhaust complications per year, but they don’t care.

Ironically Mrs Thatcher (former chemist) questioned the dash to diesel instead of clean burn engines back when the policy of favoring diesel over petrol was being discussed.

Re: Do Londoners dream of electric buses?

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Post by walshemj »

lurcio wrote: post #54
growlist wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So awful there are still plentiful migrants banging on the door to be let in.

Not really, when you see the data http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/tgm/table.do?tab=table&init=1&l... UK is not a particularly attractive destination for either economic/humanitarian reasons compared to Germany/Italy etc.

So why the camps at Calais then? given that the UK isn't welcoming to asylum seekers it makes you wonder how bad it is in other European countries.
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