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IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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> first class support for emoji I'm sorry. Even in 2018 I cannot take seriously any claim that "support for emoji" is being used to make business case decisions.

Having used slack at a business, emoji reactions to comments are an extremely valuable business feature -- they allow people to react without having to make a full-sized comment, which helps keep conversations compact.

for instance: https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2018/04/30/metoo/

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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London Trust Media recently hired Mt. Gox (yes that Mt. Gox) ex-CEO Mark Karpeles as CTO. https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/22/mt-gox-chief-returns-as-...

The co-founder of LTM was head of North America operations at Mt. Gox as well, read the first quote:

https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/04/19/disgraced-ceo-of-mt-gox-a...

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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I’d rather see irc dead than turned into something else

How could any of this kill IRC? It's an open standard.

Embrace Extend Extinguish, the root of Electronic Evils. Hopefully it doesn't happen with IRC as it has with other lovely parts of electronic history. Microsoft was the origin of the term with their browser and OS products of old, yet it has been unfortunately more and more relevant with Google, particularly email and android openness (gmail only features and Google play services, respectively).

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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IRC will never get popular again. Server-based history and connections shared across devices are just too useful.

This is all possible via clients, like TheLounge or Quassel

Not enough people will ever do that to make IRC popular again.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

So... you want to rebuild Slack? Why not just use Slack. I don't imagine the vast majority of people still using IRC want or need any of the things you listed as "common needs of today." I've been using IRC almost daily for a couple decades now and can't think of a single instance of someone saying "you know what we need? persistent logging and profile pictures and a graphical picture of poop!" Don't do this. You're making a mistake. IRC isn't a product for a market. It's a standard protocol that is so simple that it can be used via telnet. Don't ruin that.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

> first class support for emoji

If you look at Twitch, as an example, I say that emoji support is absolutely fine. Though, I guess you somehow excluded that when you said: "[...]in its current form"? Nevertheless, it does show that implementing such a thing is not that much of a problem.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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I love the optimism. Really. However, while IRC is a great collaboration tool, and one I also grew up using, I find that though users are anonymous and no one can see each other, there are still plenty of trolls who have many ways of getting under one's skin. This utopia of IRC simply doesn't exist. It is still comprised of humans. Anonymous humans. And anonymity tends to bring out the worst in people.

My experience with the FreeNode IRC network has been pretty troll-free. They could do even better by requiring everyone to register. In my experience, trolling on IRC is mostly a thing of the past.

> They could do even better by requiring everyone to register.

Many channels have this. For example, a lot of the GNU and FSF channels do this so we can keep them relatively spam and troll free.

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