Yet Guardian still calls it macedonia though
Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
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Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#52A total embarrassment for both nations that it lasted so long.
It has been a big embarrassment.
The 'macedonian' (irl: south slavic) language was recognized as a language in 1977 at a UN standards meeting that took place in Athens.
When Yugoslavia was broken in pieces, the issue of the name for FYROM should have been resolved then and there. The most promising name was North Macedonia. Oh the irony.
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#53Yet Guardian still calls it macedonia though
It still has to be ratified.
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#54I continue to regard this as the stupidest geopolitical dispute our reality can safely support.
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#55So can Luxembourg claim the Belgian province of Luxembourg back then?
I'd also like to petition to return New Mexico to Mexico.
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#56> By agreeing to rename itself the Republic of North Macedonia the country will replace an interim accord under which it joined the UN 23 years ago as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
> The agreement means Skopje will need to make more than 150 changes to its constitution before Greece brings the pact before its own parliament for ratification – a task replete with challenges for Zaev, who like Tsipras has taken a progressive view on the issue, and faces considerable opposition from nationalists. Macedonia’s president, Gjorge Ivanov, has refused to support the deal, presaging a stormy few months ahead.
Seems silly that a name change means that legal agreements have to be re-ratified.
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#57I personally do not care about the naming. Name each place / country whatever you want. What I care about is the political games that are being played behind it.
People in this thread miss one point about FYROM, they want to use the name Makedonia with relations to the ancient Makedonas. Which in turns creates issues with the Greek nation.
Now with the new "deal" they will take the name North Macedonia but they strictly mention that they do not have any relation to the Ancient Makedonas. So at the end of the day, why didnt the two goverment or EU or UN take 20 historians and ask them, "guys do they bare the right to have that name?" Whatever the historians say should be the verdict.
Now as for the name, there is a reason it is being pushed right now. The balkans are a chessboard for many many years and we will see soon the effects on "North Macedonia".
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#58Yet Guardian still calls it macedonia though
It makes you wonder if anything will change when this agreement gets implemented.
The official name is still FYROM and will switch to North Macedonia when the agreement starts getting implemented. In a few months or so.
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#59I personally do not care about the naming. Name each place / country whatever you want. What I care about is the political games that are being played behind it. People in this thread miss one point about FYROM, they want to use the name Makedonia with relations to the ancient Makedonas. Which in turns creates issues with the Greek nation. Now with the new "deal" they will take the name North Macedonia but they stric…
On a side note, try to name your cheese "Feta" or any other commercial product with a licensed name and you would be getting a lawsuit. I dont understand why the same does not happen here.. or wait capitalism :P
Re: Macedonia changes name, ending bitter dispute with Greece
#60I continue to regard this as the stupidest geopolitical dispute our reality can safely support.
History is full of such issues.
This case reached up to economic sanctions.
It is good there was no war about this.