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Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by anonu »

nemothekid wrote: post #2

I'm a little discouraged when I see articles like this that seem to be completely tuned for developers or look over completely decent pro-privacy alternatives like Apple. For example, the "best" calendar alternative is Etar which looks to a Github repo. Really? At the very least you could mention Apple Calendar. Is Maps.Me (which uses AdSense) really better than Apple Maps? I'm not a fan of hooktube either - it just…

I don't disagree that Apple looks really good nowadays from a privacy perspective. They treat their customers with respect and don't sell their data.... until they do.

How can you trust a single point of failure to "do no evil"?

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by [deleted] »

Bucephalus355 wrote: post #30

Recently I started shelling out $25 a month for a G-Suite account. I wish I could have kept my @gmail email address, as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky, but oh well. Anyway, for privacy but also security it’s been amazing. DKIM, DMARC, SPF, and S/MIME for mail. All attachments are executed in a special sandbox before moving to your inbox (delays mail a little bit). None of my personal data / content…

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Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by trumped »

nemothekid wrote: post #2

I'm a little discouraged when I see articles like this that seem to be completely tuned for developers or look over completely decent pro-privacy alternatives like Apple. For example, the "best" calendar alternative is Etar which looks to a Github repo. Really? At the very least you could mention Apple Calendar. Is Maps.Me (which uses AdSense) really better than Apple Maps? I'm not a fan of hooktube either - it just…

It's better to host your own content if you want to have a better chance at privacy.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by deadcast »

I've enjoyed fastmail for many years as an alternative to gmail. I've never once had any issues with them and their UI has been very responsive. They also give you a MASSIVE list of domain names to choose from! ^_^

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by auslander »

taneq wrote: post #48
auslander wrote: post #31

People, turn off automatic content download in your email clients. It immediately leaks when and from where you opened my email. And Search suggestions in browser, when you type into address field.

Are there any clients these days which don't have external content downloading disabled by default?

I know that apple Mail and ProtonMail's are enabled by default. Don't know about others - I don't use them, but I expect it to be same, as defaults are always set for user convenience, not privacy.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by Bucephalus355 »

pasbesoin wrote: post #37
Bucephalus355 wrote: post #30

Recently I started shelling out $25 a month for a G-Suite account. I wish I could have kept my @gmail email address, as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky, but oh well. Anyway, for privacy but also security it’s been amazing. DKIM, DMARC, SPF, and S/MIME for mail. All attachments are executed in a special sandbox before moving to your inbox (delays mail a little bit). None of my personal data / content…

The last price I recall was $60/user/year (at the default level of storage space). Has the price increased that much, or does this reflect extra storage or other add-ons?

It’s $25 per month with no contract and that’s for the Enterprise Edition, the one with the most features. I believe it starts at $10/month for lesser editions.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by srathi »

pasbesoin wrote: post #37
Bucephalus355 wrote: post #30

Recently I started shelling out $25 a month for a G-Suite account. I wish I could have kept my @gmail email address, as I think your own vanity URL looks a little tacky, but oh well. Anyway, for privacy but also security it’s been amazing. DKIM, DMARC, SPF, and S/MIME for mail. All attachments are executed in a special sandbox before moving to your inbox (delays mail a little bit). None of my personal data / content…

The last price I recall was $60/user/year (at the default level of storage space). Has the price increased that much, or does this reflect extra storage or other add-ons?

There are three tiers, ranging from $5 to $25 per month per user.

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by deadcast »

auslander wrote: post #28
bitmapbrother wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you live in China. In that case the Chinese government has full unfettered access to your iCloud Drive data and iCloud email.

If you live in China its game over anyway :) Get a VPN, somehow, and create non-Chinese iCloud accounts. Always on VPN is actually a good thing everywhere.

Haha yeah I'm going to get express vpn now thanks to this article. I can also pay with bitcoin! Yes! :)

Re: Alternatives to Google Products

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Post by Torwald »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #45
bartread wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Want to know what data of yours, if any, is being collected? Look at the code. I find this to be an extremely un-compelling position. A relatively small proportion of the general population has the skills to meaningfully look at the code, never mind the time. Moreover, even for someone who is capable, such an exercise quickly becomes non-trivial on an unfamiliar codebase for an app of any complexity. In many cases…

> I find this to be an extremely un-compelling position It's more damaging than that. The bundling of privacy and FOSS advocacy weakens the former. Few without deep technical knowledge is sympathetic to FOSS. The potential audience for a privacy pitch is broader. By bundling the two, however, the technical advocacy community limits the appeal of the former to those supporting the latter. This is an issue because the…

> Few without deep technical knowledge is sympathetic to FOSS.

Few without deep technical knowledge do even know what FOSS is.

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