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Re: Spoon.net runs any software without installing it (incl. IE6/7)

#51

It's frustrating to be told your browser is unsupported, and not be given a list of the browsers that are. http://spoon.net/UnsupportedBrowser.aspx

Tried the newest versions of chrome and firefox. Both failed. I left the site. I assume this only works on IE (which I dont have on my mac).

Worked perfectly on Chrome for me.

PS> I am on Windows XP.

Re: Spoon.net runs any software without installing it (incl. IE6/7)

#52
post #43

"The Spoon kernel is a lightweight implementation of core operating system APIs, including the filesystem, registry, process, and threading subsystems, completely implemented within the user-mode space, allowing Spoon apps to be executed without any device driver installation or administrative privileges." Two thoughts: 1. Wow, I cannot imagine how much work it would be to fake all the necessary Windows APIs for this…

Why should IT Managers fear this? From looking at their site it is very similar in concept to Citrix, which is already widely used. The browser plug-in is still needed so that provides some measure of control. If people are able to install the browser plug-in then they could probably install the applications directly.

One of my clients is government-funded and can get into trouble if they have licensing issues with their software. Their employees, meanwhile, have a tendency to not fully review the EULAs for software they download. For that and other reasons, we're about to revoke admin privileges on their workstations.

This would pretty much circumvent that.

So, yeah. I can see how IT managers might not be looking forward to this. (But, that's their job.)

Re: Spoon.net runs any software without installing it (incl. IE6/7)

#53
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should IT Managers fear this? From looking at their site it is very similar in concept to Citrix, which is already widely used. The browser plug-in is still needed so that provides some measure of control. If people are able to install the browser plug-in then they could probably install the applications directly.

One of my clients is government-funded and can get into trouble if they have licensing issues with their software. Their employees, meanwhile, have a tendency to not fully review the EULAs for software they download. For that and other reasons, we're about to revoke admin privileges on their workstations. This would pretty much circumvent that. So, yeah. I can see how IT managers might not be looking forward to this.…

Can they install the plugin without admin rights?

Re: Spoon.net runs any software without installing it (incl. IE6/7)

#55
post #54

How is this different than VMWare, Microsofts, and Citrix exisiting application virtualization products?

It runs in a browser (sort of) and apparently it doesn't require having a full OS running virtualized.

Maybe the browser is the difference, although I'm not sure how you run most apps in a browser.

VMWare, MS, and Citrix all have app virtualization technology which will virtualize a single application, not requiring the full OS to be virtualized.

Re: Spoon.net runs any software without installing it (incl. IE6/7)

#56

I've been using spoon.net on and off for cross-browser testing for about 2 years. It's a decent product, but remarkably unstable. It's very common by the middle of the day that you I be able to launch an app from within Spoon, and if I look in the task manager, there is around 8 spoon.net processes locked up and using 100 odd megs of ram each. YMMV, but I've had this on many separate installs. To be honest, this situ…

"that you I be able to" = "that I won't be able to". I have no idea how that came out so wrong.

Re: Spoon.net runs any software without installing it (incl. IE6/7)

#57
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just be careful. I've used to test against their IE6 and few things (CSS related) weren't working. Had to use MS own virtual IE6 for a more proper rendering. Awesome service.

I don't remember having such issues with spoon, it is more common in IETester though. Do you have some examples?

Overlays/z-index. Might be able to dig it up.

Re: Spoon.net runs any software without installing it (incl. IE6/7)

#58
The issue I have with these app virtualisation technologies is that they all seem to work on the same pricing model: expensive user licenses are required, which pretty much dictates how I -as the developer- should sell and price the applications I distribute.

It's cool technology that could be very useful in solving all sorts of deployment issues, but it's way too expensive. Having to track, pay and manage these royalties/user licenses offsets -at my lowly ISV level- any benefit these products may offer.

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