This is a shame. For professionals, it has long made sense to make the transition to digital. For the amateurs of the world and those of us doing it for the sheer joy of it, film is unsurpassed. Developing B&W prints is as close to magic as I've experienced. For those who don't know, B&W paper isn't sensitive to red light, so once you've exposed the paper, you can put it in the developer and actually watch the image…
Canon has sold its last film camera
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Re: Canon has sold its last film camera
#52My brother is a photographer and works in a camera store in his spare time - or the other way around, depending on when you ask him. He's spent a fortune over the years on film and cameras and switched to full digital a while ago. Recently he traded all his glass & bodies for new Sony gear, which he reckons outperforms both Canon and Nikon by a considerable margin. So if you're letting go of film and are in the marke…
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And in the scheme of things there is almost no market for medium / large format cameras (digital or otherwise).
Don't tell the medium and large format professionals in agencies and art works around the world. They'll be shocked to hear that.
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The only reason it made sense to transition to digital is the workflow. Its more efficient to shoot weddings on digital so you can turn out a product faster.
There are a lot of reasons it made sense: getting to see your photos instantly instead of waiting for (and paying for) film development, the ability to change the white balance after photos are taken, not lugging a bunch of film around, not worrying about airport x-rays ruining your film, getting a digital copy of your photos without using a scanner, and many other very big advantages.
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Good points, but the market is dying for DSLRs. I wince each time I use mine for the terrible wifi capability, the awful OS, etc. Why can't it be modernised? Because Canon and Nikon won't do it.
Its dying because the mechanical mirror in the DLSRs is not needed anymore with todays tech. So mirrorless cameras will make the game once ppl learn to not miss the click sound. They will simply get replaced with less complex and cheaper cameras.
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Well that and there is almost no market for new film cameras.
I'd argue there is for Medium/Large format, but that's a whole different ballgame compared to consumer SLRs. Last time I looked the digital back for a Hasselblad was ~$30k.
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What lead are you talking about? Canon's sensors were a running joke in the past 5 years comparing to Nikon (that used modified Sony sensors), manufactured in 3 generation-older process than their competition. Seeing e.g. D750 vs 5D MkIII in low-light was an eye opener. The only selling point of Canon remained their unique "pleasant" color mapping (and photographers getting stuck with older Canon-only lenses/strobes…
Canon's sensors are decent, not a running joke as you say. But yeah they are known more for their colors (which is actually very important). Sony has destroyed the competition with their sensors though, and has really pushed the boundaries, at least until recently with that 50 mpix sensor that Canon released. Haven't researched that much though, I'm a few years behind myself. That said, Canon has historically been th…
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its dying because the mechanical mirror in the DLSRs is not needed anymore with todays tech. So mirrorless cameras will make the game once ppl learn to not miss the click sound. They will simply get replaced with less complex and cheaper cameras.
Optical viewfinders are still better. And I say that as someone who has a Canon DSLR but shoots more with a Fujifilm X-E3 because it's a lot smaller and lighter. The day will certainly come when electronic viewfinders become dominant but there are still advantages to mirrors today.
Re: Canon has sold its last film camera
#59This is a shame. For professionals, it has long made sense to make the transition to digital. For the amateurs of the world and those of us doing it for the sheer joy of it, film is unsurpassed. Developing B&W prints is as close to magic as I've experienced. For those who don't know, B&W paper isn't sensitive to red light, so once you've exposed the paper, you can put it in the developer and actually watch the image…
Note that "professionals" still use film, particularly in the high end art market with large format and 'view' cameras in particular. One might think that's "niche" but there are a lot of them out there.
The people doing art professionally certainly count as pros, but (wild hand-waving), most of them probably aren't subject to the kind of turnaround requirements that drove the rest of the 35mm world to digital.
I suppose I'm also excluding the medium and large-format studio folks who, besides art, shoot primarily for ... advertising? I'm totally ignorant of that side of the business.
Re: Canon has sold its last film camera
#60This is a shame. For professionals, it has long made sense to make the transition to digital. For the amateurs of the world and those of us doing it for the sheer joy of it, film is unsurpassed. Developing B&W prints is as close to magic as I've experienced. For those who don't know, B&W paper isn't sensitive to red light, so once you've exposed the paper, you can put it in the developer and actually watch the image…
> For the amateurs of the world and those of us doing it for the sheer joy of it, film is unsurpassed.
I feel like that too, but I'd like to understand more clearly exactly what was lost. Are we just being nostalgic? Is obsessing over the tactile part of the experience missing what's important about creating imagery or music? Are we ignoring the fact that the new generation has their own tactile experience that is different but not worse than ours was? We associate these tactile experiences with our joy of discovery and creation, but perhaps they're incidental and not very important to actually being creative.
> Plus there's something about the smell of a darkroom. The hot lamps of the enlargers create a smell that mixes with the smell of the fixer and the stop bath that's unmistakable.
I never got over the feeling that I was giving myself cancer or something else breathing and touching the chemicals. The vinegary smell of fixer isn't something I miss personally.
> something has been lost.
FWIW, doing my own image processing by writing my own code has taken the place of doing my own darkroom work, and white it's obviously less tactile, it still gives me a similar feeling of touching the images.