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As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

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Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

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These are the only things you should feed a feral cat, in order of preference: - Curiosity (When it becomes available) - 1080 - Eradicat http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/invasive-species/...

Do you read your own links? Or do you just spew this information with reckless abandon? You’re promoting blanket killing of innocent animals, and you can’t even get your information right.

Until you understand the problem, perhaps you should avoid killing it.

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

#52

Clearly they need some Coyotes out there too. When I was at Sun, the 'main' campus early on was at 2550 Garcia ave, (now Intuit) and we would walk around shoreline at Lunch. There were lots of signs to be aware of and not to disturb the burrowing owls (which once was misspelled the borrowing owls and so we had a lot of pan handling owl jokes for a while). When I worked at Google (on Amphitheatre way) there was a cat…

> If Google has chipped the cats as they say in the article, then an RFID reading station in the owl territory would allow them to identify and eliminate those cats predating on the owls I expect.

That's a good idea. But still probably unacceptable to cat lovers. Maybe there are middle options. Google could build a very large cage, and release non-adopted cats there. Or if that's not feasible, it could declaw and/or defang them. And yes, I know that those are horrible things to do to cats (or anyone, for that matter). But maybe it's better than death.

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

#53
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gosh, it's almost like Google is a company 10x the size of John Deere, one used by billions of people (and the great bulk of the NYT's readers). And you might note that this is in the section specifically devoted to covering the technology industry. Do you also object to the Times having that and not an agriculture section?

John Deere has about 66K employees and Google has about 85K. Also, the former literally makes money by altering the environment whereas the latter is generally web-based. I think this is the exact point the OP is talking about: Google seems big because it's bigger by profits. Also, not unrelated, some people here and elsewhere feel more emotional about Google. So take some otherwise small-town public-interest story a…

>Also, the former literally makes money by altering the environment whereas the latter is generally web-based.

Do you think the web is some magical place outside of the environment? Google has more servers running than any other company in the world consuming significant amounts of energy.

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

#54

These are the only things you should feed a feral cat, in order of preference: - Curiosity (When it becomes available) - 1080 - Eradicat http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/invasive-species/...

Do you read your own links? Or do you just spew this information with reckless abandon? You’re promoting blanket killing of innocent animals, and you can’t even get your information right. Until you understand the problem, perhaps you should avoid killing it.

The links I posted are accurate and informative. Have you actually read them ?

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

#56
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

John Deere has about 66K employees and Google has about 85K. Also, the former literally makes money by altering the environment whereas the latter is generally web-based. I think this is the exact point the OP is talking about: Google seems big because it's bigger by profits. Also, not unrelated, some people here and elsewhere feel more emotional about Google. So take some otherwise small-town public-interest story a…

>Also, the former literally makes money by altering the environment whereas the latter is generally web-based. Do you think the web is some magical place outside of the environment? Google has more servers running than any other company in the world consuming significant amounts of energy.

Out of all the organizations that do bad for public policy, you're going after Google. And out of all the things you can get Google for, you're going after the latent heat of their servers?

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

#57
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gosh, it's almost like Google is a company 10x the size of John Deere, one used by billions of people (and the great bulk of the NYT's readers). And you might note that this is in the section specifically devoted to covering the technology industry. Do you also object to the Times having that and not an agriculture section?

John Deere has about 66K employees and Google has about 85K. Also, the former literally makes money by altering the environment whereas the latter is generally web-based. I think this is the exact point the OP is talking about: Google seems big because it's bigger by profits. Also, not unrelated, some people here and elsewhere feel more emotional about Google. So take some otherwise small-town public-interest story a…

The 10x is by market cap, which is a better measure of its economic importance.

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

#58
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Also, the former literally makes money by altering the environment whereas the latter is generally web-based. Do you think the web is some magical place outside of the environment? Google has more servers running than any other company in the world consuming significant amounts of energy.

Out of all the organizations that do bad for public policy, you're going after Google. And out of all the things you can get Google for, you're going after the latent heat of their servers?

Nobody is "going after" Google here. It was an interesting article about unintended consequences. That it involved Google made it a bit more interesting, as people are understandably curious about a company that touches most Americans daily -- for many, dozens of times a day.

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

#59
post #52

Clearly they need some Coyotes out there too. When I was at Sun, the 'main' campus early on was at 2550 Garcia ave, (now Intuit) and we would walk around shoreline at Lunch. There were lots of signs to be aware of and not to disturb the burrowing owls (which once was misspelled the borrowing owls and so we had a lot of pan handling owl jokes for a while). When I worked at Google (on Amphitheatre way) there was a cat…

> If Google has chipped the cats as they say in the article, then an RFID reading station in the owl territory would allow them to identify and eliminate those cats predating on the owls I expect. That's a good idea. But still probably unacceptable to cat lovers. Maybe there are middle options. Google could build a very large cage , and release non-adopted cats there. Or if that's not feasible, it could declaw and/or…

I expect a defanged/declawed cat would not be able to fend for itself and would die through starvation or predation.

Cat lovers and bird lovers have been fighting over the restored wetlands on the south side of the bay since the late 70's as far as I can ascertain.

Re: As Google Feeds Cats, Owl Lovers Cry Foul

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If Google has chipped the cats as they say in the article, then an RFID reading station in the owl territory would allow them to identify and eliminate those cats predating on the owls I expect. That's a good idea. But still probably unacceptable to cat lovers. Maybe there are middle options. Google could build a very large cage , and release non-adopted cats there. Or if that's not feasible, it could declaw and/or…

I expect a defanged/declawed cat would not be able to fend for itself and would die through starvation or predation. Cat lovers and bird lovers have been fighting over the restored wetlands on the south side of the bay since the late 70's as far as I can ascertain.

Agreed. That's why I said that it was horrible. But death would be better?

Also:

> “Google understands the cats are not supposed to cross the line into the park,” a spokeswoman for the Silicon Valley Animal Control Authority said.

But in the photo, we see a cat heading for a picket fence. So why not build a real fence, which cats can penetrate? Or build a ~1 ha cage?

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