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Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by jgrahamc »

chx wrote: post #47
jgrahamc wrote: post #30

Oh, cool. I can finally fix the bug/feature that whenever someone replied to an email from me they got warned about profanity because of my last name :-)

May I have an off topic question? I know I read in an article that Cloudbleed woke you up like 1:23AM but I can't find that article any more and I used that to tell my junior developers to write code they can understand when they are woken at 1:23AM as you were. So the question is -- is this true or did I dream up something?

That is true.

I woke to my phone ringing quickly followed by this exchange of messages: https://imgur.com/a/7aLLw22

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by kps »

jcranmer wrote: post #48
toyg wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit weird, just above they say "they decided not to simply grant a license, but to transfer ownership of the code, the Eudora trademarks, the copyrights, and the Eudora domain names to the Computer History Museum". So it's the CHM who is barring people from using the name. The relevant clause must be this: "Neither the name of Computer History Museum nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or…

> Is this really "BSD license", if the name is off-limits? This looks like an extra clause to me. There's actually a few licenses that are called the BSD license. In modern terms, BSD refers to the 3-clause BSD. However, the 3-clause BSD was not the original form. It was introduced because the 4th clause was generally viewed as problematic. That 4th clause is: > 4. Neither the name of the nor the names of its contrib…

That clause is in the common 3-clause version. The dropped clause from 4 to 3 is the one that was originally #3,

3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement: This product includes software developed by the .

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by latigidigital »

eltoozero wrote: post #3

In 1999-2001 when I was doing dialup tech support, running into a customer with Eudora was a dream compared to the nightmare of basically any other contemporary mail client around: Outlook and Outlook Express. EarthLink even made their own abomination of a mail client called Total Access, IIRC it could import and export Eudora dbs.

Don't forget Pegasus!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_Mail

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by maxlybbert »

adamw2k wrote: post #8

Wonder why they chose not to host on GitHub...

This isn’t the first project the Computer History Museum has hosted. At this point, I’m sure the thinking is simply that they self-hosted the previous source code drops.

I can imagine additional reasons (e.g., no desire to tie the museum to a third party, even if that party looks like it will be around for a while; who knows what policies Github might adopt in the future or which groups of people they may manage to upset?). But to be honest, I doubt a lot of thought went into this decision, this time.

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by icc97 »

jmbwell wrote: post #9

"Boolean butch; // don't call pete drag handlers in PantyTrack" Always assume that one day, the world will see your code.

From the release post from CHM themselves [0]:

> The source code we are distributing is what we received from Qualcomm, with only the following changes:

> * addition of the CHM copyright notice and the BSD license

> * sanitization of “bad words”, mostly in comments, as requested by Qualcomm

[0]: http://www.computerhistory.org/_static/atchm/the-eudora-emai...

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by icc97 »

toyg wrote: post #6

I applaud Qualcomm for donating all trademarks and copyrights too, which means literally anyone can recompile it and still call it "Eudora". Unfortunately Eudora is basically three completely different codebases (Windows, Mac, and a rebranded Thunderbird for Linux). I guess only the Windows one is likely to ever be revived.

The difference in code bases is striking [0]:

> The Windows version of Eudora is written in C++. The source tree consists of 8,651 files in 565 folders, taking up 458 MB. There are both production (“Eudora71”) and test (“Sandbox”) versions of the code.

> The Macintosh version of Eudora is an entirely different code base and is written in C. The source tree consists of 1,433 files in 47 folders, taking up 69.9 MB.

[0]: http://www.computerhistory.org/_static/atchm/the-eudora-emai...

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by mark-r »

coldacid wrote: post #15
mark-r wrote: post #14

How well has this code base aged? Will it be able to display today's HTML-heavy emails?

I'd hope that it wouldn't. "Today's HTML-heavy emails" are horrible.

I wouldn't argue with you, but I'd rather they be horrible than unreadable.

Re: Computer History Museum Makes Eudora Email Client Source Code Available

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

jgrahamc wrote: post #30

Oh, cool. I can finally fix the bug/feature that whenever someone replied to an email from me they got warned about profanity because of my last name :-)

Could be worse: you could have graduated Summa cum laude and have the store refuse to put that on your graduation cake!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/05/2...

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