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Rust 1.26 released

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Re: Rust 1.26 released

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Post by steveklabnik »

pcx wrote: post #48
gamegoblin wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which glaring holes are there in your point of view? Rust devs are on HN a lot, so maybe they will see your comment. All that said, Rust definitely errs on the side of preferring to put things in 3rd party crates instead of stdlib, even for things that are very common to put in std for other languages (e.g. random number generation).

A couple of commong APIs I can think off the top of my head: - HTTP client - CSV parser/generator I know Hyper and rust-csv are popular. But having an stdlib that's much more feature complete would be great.

Yeah, I can totally appreciate the perspective, but without a significant set of policy changes, I don't see either of these happening. We'll see!

Re: Rust 1.26 released

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Post by steveklabnik »

jmhain wrote: post #49

Is it possible to match the end of a slice with slice patterns? Something like: fn foo(s: &[char]) { match s { ['a', 'b'] => (), [.. 'b', 'c'] => (), _ => (), } }

Not today, but it's coming. This kind of thing does work on nightly.

Re: Rust 1.26 released

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Post by nikolay »

steveklabnik wrote: post #54
nikolay wrote: post #52

I really wonder why is Golang so popular today when Rust is just killing it?

They're very different languages, so different people like them for different reasons. Why is salt so popular today when pepper is just killing it?

Well, every two languages are different, but at least for systems programming, Golang unfortunately started to replace Python, but given how vitally important security is in that domain, Rust makes a lot more sense than Golang, won't you agree?

Re: Rust 1.26 released

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Post by oblio »

steveklabnik wrote: post #51
pcx wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple of commong APIs I can think off the top of my head: - HTTP client - CSV parser/generator I know Hyper and rust-csv are popular. But having an stdlib that's much more feature complete would be great.

Yeah, I can totally appreciate the perspective, but without a significant set of policy changes, I don't see either of these happening. We'll see!

Maybe after the community chooses a few “winners” the Rust devs could promote them as being “suggested” packages?

Also, some suggested metapackages/bundles wouldn’t hurt for newbies, like a set of crates for developing command line tools, for example.

Something like this: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/

Re: Rust 1.26 released

#58

Post by Scarbutt »

kibwen wrote: post #7

So yeah, 1.26 is the most substantial release since 1.0, but there's lots more goodies coming in the pipeline. :) It just so happened that all the initiatives from last year are preparing to land at approximately the same time. For example, coming up next in 1.27 is stable SIMD: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/49664 (though only for x86/x86_64 at first; more platforms and high-level crossplatform APIs are on t…

So yeah, 1.26 is the most substantial release since 1.0, but there's lots more goodies coming in the pipeline

Will rust users get a break someday?

Re: Rust 1.26 released

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Post by steveklabnik »

Scarbutt wrote: post #58
kibwen wrote: post #7

So yeah, 1.26 is the most substantial release since 1.0, but there's lots more goodies coming in the pipeline. :) It just so happened that all the initiatives from last year are preparing to land at approximately the same time. For example, coming up next in 1.27 is stable SIMD: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/49664 (though only for x86/x86_64 at first; more platforms and high-level crossplatform APIs are on t…

So yeah, 1.26 is the most substantial release since 1.0, but there's lots more goodies coming in the pipeline Will rust users get a break someday?

It's been three years since 1.0, or at least, it will be in five days :) I'd say one mega-release every three years is pretty... slow, honestly.

That being said, we'll be adding new language features as they fix pain points for users and fit in with the rest of the language; when that's not true, we won't move so quickly. Rust is still fairly young, there's a lot to do!

Re: Rust 1.26 released

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Post by steveklabnik »

oblio wrote: post #56
steveklabnik wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I can totally appreciate the perspective, but without a significant set of policy changes, I don't see either of these happening. We'll see!

Maybe after the community chooses a few “winners” the Rust devs could promote them as being “suggested” packages? Also, some suggested metapackages/bundles wouldn’t hurt for newbies, like a set of crates for developing command line tools, for example. Something like this: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/

It depends, the team suggested this kind of thing two years ago, and the community pretty resoundingly rejected the idea.
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