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Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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Sounds shocking... but having worked as a contractor for a goodly portion of my career, I'd argue that something is seriously wrong if you can't get at least one employee to vouch for you. Really, every place I've worked, you could say this happens every month; almost always I've needed an employee to sign off on my hours, either the person I report to or the person they report to. I always took that as a vote of con…

> something is seriously wrong if you can't get at least one employee to vouch for you.

It's not just a "vouch", the language used is: "a Tesla employee putting their reputation on the line."

It's like the tesla-mafia, watch out or cousin Elon is coming for ya!

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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Wish the US government would do the same thing!

Grant programs always have multiple consulting firms that either evaluate the program or help manage the program. It was always so fun navigating the government/ contractor directives.

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> Sounds shocking... but having worked as a contractor for a goodly portion of my career, I'd argue that something is seriously wrong if you can't get at least one employee to vouch for you. That sounds reasonable, although I could see a need for some exceptions. For example, I could see a company using a contractor for its front end web development and another contractor for running the web server. The first contrac…

The second contractor would surely have a hiring manager that could explain what’s what to upper management.

> would surely have a hiring manager that could explain...

This is a big assumption

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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Sounds shocking... but having worked as a contractor for a goodly portion of my career, I'd argue that something is seriously wrong if you can't get at least one employee to vouch for you. Really, every place I've worked, you could say this happens every month; almost always I've needed an employee to sign off on my hours, either the person I report to or the person they report to. I always took that as a vote of con…

> something is seriously wrong if you can't get at least one employee to vouch for you. It's not just a "vouch", the language used is: "a Tesla employee putting their reputation on the line." It's like the tesla-mafia, watch out or cousin Elon is coming for ya!

Putting your reputation on the line is exactly what vouching is.

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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I dunno, GM and Ford build a fuck-ton more cars and have better build quality (which is shitty by int'l standards). Seems like Teslas's problem is bigger.

Having owned both a GM and a Tesla, I'm amused by the idea that GM's build quality is better. I actually liked my GM a lot, but quality was lacking to say the least.

Having driven Fords, GMs and a Tesla, I'd say GM isn't international standard either, but Ford is definitely.

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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Having owned both a GM and a Tesla, I'm amused by the idea that GM's build quality is better. I actually liked my GM a lot, but quality was lacking to say the least.

year make and model? I only ask, because honestly, I bought ( ordered and customized online really ) a new 2015 GMC Canyon and I love this truck like I've never loved another vehicle in my lifetime... and literally NOTHING has gone wrong with it, not even a loose screw... or burnt-out light bulb...

For a 3-4 year old car, having nothing break yet should be regarded as about par, not some outstanding accomplishment. These things should be lasting at least a decade with reasonable maintenance, and every component that can't last a decade should be on the maintenance schedule for preemptive replacement.

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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Having an employee vouch for you... does this not imply they don't even know where their money is going as a company and who is valuable and who is not? I agree, that having the line worker / employee using the part's blessing is important, but surely there are more holistic top-down ways of evaluating this?

> surely there are more holistic top-down ways of evaluating this? Which would take months. This is about sending a message as much as it is about cutting costs (fast).

What's the real message. Employees prepared to be fired as soon as we reduce the outsourcing budget. Your jobs are not safe so if a better opportunity comes up, take it.

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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Being a hard ass CEO isn't sexy, but it's what so many successful CEO's are. > Often, it is like a Russian nesting doll of contractor, subcontractor, sub-subcontractor, etc. before you finally find someone doing actual work. I'd also argue that these multi-level contractor setups are a major security concern. Ideally they should make it policy to have no more than one additional level between Tesla and the contractor…

It really makes me wonder: Isn't using contractors super inefficient? Why do companies, when they could do it in house, use them?

> Why do companies, when they could do it in house, use them?

A few basic reasons:

* You can't do it in-house as well as a contractor who specializes in this field, or as well as this particular contractor. Very broadly speaking, the best people in field X want to work for themselves, do things their way, and keep the revenue from their work. They don't want to be several layers deep in management at your company, to have f-ng morons (i.e., anyone else) telling them how to do their job, and to be paid a salary for the breathtaking, save-the-day miracles they routinely output.

* It's not worth the investment: You would have to find and hire talent, ramp up, provide resources to them (equipment, training, etc.), be able to manage the talent in a field that isn't your expertise, and keep them busy and interested. Maybe you don't have enough scale in the things they do to support quality resources; maybe you just don't have enough work or enough interesting work for them.

* Every additional employee or capability is a distraction for the organization, including management. Keep focused on the things you do best and that are strategically important; you don't even have time for that. If you're small restaurant chain, IT isn't strategically important - it just has to be reliable and good enough. Outsource it and focus on world-beating food, service, and marketing.

* You don't want to pay benefits, taxes, or have the other responsibilities of being an employer. See: Uber.

* Sometimes it's just politics: I once worked in an outsourced capacity for a company where the IT manager simply didn't want to invest in a technology that would threaten their fiefdom, so somebody brought in a contractor. It was not a fun place to be.

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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The second contractor would surely have a hiring manager that could explain what’s what to upper management.

> would surely have a hiring manager that could explain... This is a big assumption

Is it? Seems plain to me, but

1) I honestly don’t know what the org structure is at Tesla

2) assuming there are hiring managers, if they’re hiring people they wouldn’t vouch for (to boost their dept size (again not knowing the org chart)), then managers are gaming Tesla, and that’s another problem

Re: Tesla reviewing contractors, firing everyone not vouched for by an employee

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This is what happens when you don't fill out your TPS reports correctly.

Sarcasm aside it seems like Tesla has operational issues. This coupled with the story a few weeks back about somewhat "slapdash" power module assembly is a bit concerning.

Musk is a visionary... but few visionaries are excellent operations people.

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