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Re: OkCupid Deletes Post “Your Looks and Your Inbox”

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Post by daxorid » Fri, May 04, 2018, 8:32 PM UTC

cimmanom wrote: post #42

J-dawg wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this "intolerance of intolerance" is becoming terrifying. I personally find "people who hate people with a different skin colour" and "people who hate women" to be repulsive. I'd prefer not to work with those people, if possible. But I accept that in a free society, I might have to. I have no special right to be protected from opinions I don't like, and nor should I. Nobody should be excluded from employment…

It is the rare person who can prevent their hate from leaking out into their day to day interactions and making their coworkers uncomfortable - thus interfering with morale and the company's viability.

If we remove the ideological aspect of this argument entirely, what we're left with is the notion that employment is supposed to be 100% comfortable. But...

In any given employment environment: chairs may be less than form-fitting; different people will have different tolerances for the thermostat setting; some employees may heat fish and durian fruit in the microwave; one may be asked to load or unload 40 foot shipping containers; being under pressure to meet a deadline is fairly normal; a boss or coworker may have an unpleasant personality, possibly even a personality disorder.

In general, we expect that in many ways, employment will be uncomfortable. In general, we accept this as a nominal cost of earning a living.

But once various ideologies are introduced, there is a sudden expectation that a small and specific subset of workplace interactions ought to be 100% pleasant and comfortable. Why is this?

Re: OkCupid Deletes Post “Your Looks and Your Inbox”

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Post by J-dawg » Fri, May 04, 2018, 9:05 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #49

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #36

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On HN flagging is used not just for spam, but often for content you don't agree with; especially if you strongly don't agree with it. In this case you think this content shouldn't be on HN and click "flag". If enough people do that, the post disappears. There's nothing you can do about it.

If people flag civil, substantive comments just because they don't like them, that's an abuse of flagging, and we eventually take away their flagging rights. Flagging is for posts that break the site guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

Thanks for this.

So was my comment flagged? And does this count as an abuse of flagging?

Re: OkCupid Deletes Post “Your Looks and Your Inbox”

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Post by dang » Fri, May 04, 2018, 9:50 PM UTC

J-dawg wrote: post #52

dang wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people flag civil, substantive comments just because they don't like them, that's an abuse of flagging, and we eventually take away their flagging rights. Flagging is for posts that break the site guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html .

Thanks for this. So was my comment flagged? And does this count as an abuse of flagging?

No, we collapsed the subthread because it's off topic.

Re: OkCupid Deletes Post “Your Looks and Your Inbox”

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Post by cimmanom » Sat, May 05, 2018, 1:02 AM UTC

daxorid wrote: post #51

cimmanom wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the rare person who can prevent their hate from leaking out into their day to day interactions and making their coworkers uncomfortable - thus interfering with morale and the company's viability.

If we remove the ideological aspect of this argument entirely, what we're left with is the notion that employment is supposed to be 100% comfortable. But... In any given employment environment: chairs may be less than form-fitting; different people will have different tolerances for the thermostat setting; some employees may heat fish and durian fruit in the microwave; one may be asked to load or unload 40 foot shipp…

If I have the choice between working somewhere where my colleague thinks he has the right to rape me if I don't sleep with him vs a place where my colleagues are respectful and have my back, where do you think I'll choose to work? And if I don't have a choice of where to work, do you think I'll be able to do my best work with that sort of threat present?

It's not just about comfort (though personally I do think people have a right to a workplace where there coworkers would defend them against bodily harm rather than claim a right to inflict it). It's also about what's best for the business.