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Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

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Post by milad_nazari »

merinowool wrote: post #50

From my experience Scaleway is awfully slow and you can't really scale your project as you like as there is often no stock. There is also that weird IP thing where you need to bind to private IP instead of the public. This causes a lot of problems - for example using custom dns for Kubernetes doesn't really work with that setup. Only thing good about it is the network. Another thing - if your instance has a fault and…

Personally, I don't think Scaleway servers are good enough to be used in production like you describe it. However, because of the low prices, they are ideal (for me at least) for hosting small web apps.

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

#52

Post by shub »

dx034 wrote: post #35
option_greek wrote: post #12

I checked them out after using GCP, AWS and its unbelievable how much slower their servers are. I some times wonder how anyone other than AWS/GCP/Azure even survive in this competitive market.

If you only want a server, OVH/Hetzner are much cheaper for the same performance. To me, AWS/GCP/Azure only really make sense if you start using the whole ecosystem. Otherwise you can get the same for half the price..

I've spent the last 3 years doing AWS stuff at work and agree 100%. If all you're using is EC2 then it's not a great value. Where it's worthwhile are the other services you can tie in to really easily. At work we're using:

  SQS
  SNS
  RDS
  S3
  Athena/Glue
  EMR
  CloudWatch
  Lambda
  CloudWatch Events
  EC2 Autoscaling, ELB, ALB
  Elasticsearch Service
  Glacier
  ElastiCache
  Route 53
  CloudFront
  Data Pipeline
It's spendy, no question. None of this is stuff you can't do yourself on cheap instances. We'd just need an additional 2-3 FTEs to maintain the homegrown jungle of crap that would replace the managed services. Oops, there went my savings.

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

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Post by merinowool »

milad_nazari wrote: post #51
merinowool wrote: post #50

From my experience Scaleway is awfully slow and you can't really scale your project as you like as there is often no stock. There is also that weird IP thing where you need to bind to private IP instead of the public. This causes a lot of problems - for example using custom dns for Kubernetes doesn't really work with that setup. Only thing good about it is the network. Another thing - if your instance has a fault and…

Personally, I don't think Scaleway servers are good enough to be used in production like you describe it. However, because of the low prices, they are ideal (for me at least) for hosting small web apps.

That is sadly true. I am actually going to delete my cluster tomorrow because of that.

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

#54

Post by kogepathic »

voltagex_ wrote: post #49
geostyx wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ran 173TB combined up/down last month without ever being throttled on their C2L instance. I've run 583TB through it in the last 5 months. It even bursts to 2.2Gbps every few minutes.

What did that cost you? What's the bandwidth to other countries like?

Scaleway doesn't charge for bandwidth, so I'd guess their monthly cost is the price of the C2L (23,99€/month)

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

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Post by walrus01 »

jmngomes wrote: post #11

...providing that they can actually and predictably supply the servers. My experience with Scaleway was essentially this: they advertise that you can have virtual servers with up to 10 150GB SSD volumes, so I signed up and created a virtual server with two 150GB volumes. After several attempts over three days, the server wouldn't start at all; it never actually started. Scaleway's support told me that "it's because t…

OVH/Soyoustart/Kimsufi (same company) at least doesn't let you pay money for, or order a server, unless it is "in stock".

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

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Post by JorgeGT »

megous wrote: post #34
dspillett wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to name the one(s) you recommend and why?

Rather not, I'm still glad it's not very well known in SV or mentioned on HN. Sorry. I tried scaleway, and I'm glad I didn't try to move my personal SMTP server there. The other issue was that I can't run my own kernel there, which was also non-obvious before purchasing. They make it look like it's baremetal, but it's limited in this way. Now I'm on a fully virtualized vmware VM where I can do pretty much anything, i…

Aruba Cloud?

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

#57

Post by jcrubino »

jmngomes wrote: post #11

...providing that they can actually and predictably supply the servers. My experience with Scaleway was essentially this: they advertise that you can have virtual servers with up to 10 150GB SSD volumes, so I signed up and created a virtual server with two 150GB volumes. After several attempts over three days, the server wouldn't start at all; it never actually started. Scaleway's support told me that "it's because t…

A terrible experience for you, but our business model was validated as demand has been above capacity for years! Take that SI valley. La baleine échouée est maintenant la nôtre!

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

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Post by usr1106 »

reacweb wrote: post #31
PaulKeeble wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also found that in addition to that even when the server was available I had a bunch of problems even getting it to start. Their customised images just seemed to not work that day. Once I finally got the image started I then attempted a basic update && dist-upgrade and find myself looking at a bunch of errors, they had reconfigured the entirity of their image to point at their own caches, but thoses caches weren't…

hello, my personal website is running on a scaleway C1 (dirt cheap baremetal arm) since 3 oct 2015. There were some network issues the first months. No problem since. My main administrative task is: apt-get update/upgrade every week and backup of my site every couple of month.

I use the same. I don't have any uptime requirements because it's only for freetime and experimental use. But I don't think there has been any outage (knocking on wood)

If you use their Ubuntu image it should have unattended upgrades enabled already. Still, you need to watch it. Ubuntu is not very good at restarting daemons after a library has been upgraded. dhclient is regularly affected. And libc is blocked from automatic updates IIRC. The kernel anyway, because this is a diskless setup.

I like the product (baremetal ARM). But I fear it's dead. They used to upgrade the kernel frequently, but now it appears that no one is working on it anymore. Of course don't try to run anything that requires performance or availability on a 4 EUR / month server.

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

#59

Post by usr1106 »

They are known for overselling a bit. They admit it in this very blog post. Nice technical, leading edge concepts, good prices. But then they might struggle with fulfilling the promises.

They had big announcements for IPv6. After a long wait they had to admit that their C1 infra has HW limitations and IPv6 would never come. On their other infra they do have IPv6, but I understand the implementation is awkward (not an IPv6 expert myself).

They had big plans for ARM. Nowadays they do mostly Intel.

Yes, I like them for pioneering, but I would not like to have my business heavily relying on their promises.

Re: Scaleway – NVMe SSD Servers and Hot Snapshot

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Post by usr1106 »

usr1106 wrote: post #59

They are known for overselling a bit. They admit it in this very blog post. Nice technical, leading edge concepts, good prices. But then they might struggle with fulfilling the promises. They had big announcements for IPv6. After a long wait they had to admit that their C1 infra has HW limitations and IPv6 would never come. On their other infra they do have IPv6, but I understand the implementation is awkward (not an…

Forgot to mention: You get free networking on IPv6. Certainly a good deal, if you have usage for servers without IPv4.
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