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Re: New Windows 10 Features

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Post by dingaling »

elvirs wrote: post #36
SwellJoe wrote: post #17

I don't think Microsoft and I have the same idea about focus and distraction. I just got a small Windows laptop for a couple of tasks I can't do well on Linux, and after it updated to the latest Windows stuff it had dozens of notifications enabled. All kinds of ridiculous crap popping up while I'm trying to do things. Like, a constant battery of interruptions, with noise and visual bubbles over in the notifications c…

Notifications on a new android phone drive me nuts. Are you at McDonalds? -No, im at a traffic light across from McDonald's. Even if I am, what is it to you? Google, please fuck off with your shit. I had to mute so many notifications all together because there was no way to select good from bad that im sure im missing some of important stuff.

That's not Android nagging at an OS level, that's an app you've chosen to use and to which you've chosen to login.

On my phone I receive status-bar notifications a for: new personal e-mail, RSS updates for specific topics, F-droid updates, battery level, storage space critical. The latter two are the only OS notifications I can't seem to suppress.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

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Post by digi_owl »

orionblastar wrote: post #46

The more new Windows 10 features that get added, the more I miss my Commodore Amiga, and the more time I spend in dual booted Linux Mint.

Careful, the big names running the Linux desktop circus may well go down the same route.

And while Mint is a independent-ish distro, they really do not have the manpower to maintain a fully independent desktop stack.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

#53

Post by p10_user »

ilyanep wrote: post #18
dblohm7 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's there as a group policy, fyi.

I've set the group policy and still come home to find my desktop having rebooted

You didn’t also change that other group policy that take precedence in certain situations over the one you changed.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

#54

Post by iamaelephant »

dingaling wrote: post #51
elvirs wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notifications on a new android phone drive me nuts. Are you at McDonalds? -No, im at a traffic light across from McDonald's. Even if I am, what is it to you? Google, please fuck off with your shit. I had to mute so many notifications all together because there was no way to select good from bad that im sure im missing some of important stuff.

That's not Android nagging at an OS level, that's an app you've chosen to use and to which you've chosen to login. On my phone I receive status-bar notifications a for: new personal e-mail, RSS updates for specific topics, F-droid updates, battery level, storage space critical. The latter two are the only OS notifications I can't seem to suppress.

It doesn't matter that they're not at the os level, they're notifications you'll get on an Android phone as delivered straight from the factory.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

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Post by dbg31415 »

I'm really struggling to know who their target audience is with this stuff. I watched their marketing materials... I just don't get it.

Meanwhile, some features I think they are still missing the boat on:

1) Driver Updates. I want a tool that will go out and download the latest drivers for all my stuff.

2) Password manager integration; I don't want to have to type or copy paste passwords I just want them all pulled from my password manager.

3) Clipboard history; like Jumpcut or CopyClip.

4) Cloud font sync; like SkyFonts.

5) Better screenshot annotation tools; like Skitch.

6) Better ad block; like Stephen Black's hosts file.

7) Most importantly, better privacy and the option to turn off all tracking by Microsoft.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

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Post by SwellJoe »

qplex wrote: post #49
SwellJoe wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android has a "Do Not Disturb" mode, and it works well enough, but it is all or nothing. There are notifications I want . I want to know when one of my co-workers needs my involvement, for example, and I want to know when a friend is trying to reach me on facebook messenger. I don't want to know when 13 of my friends are "interested in events in your area", which facebook has decided is worthy of my notifications bar…

On my Android there is an option to configure notifications on per app basis. It works very well. Filtering different types of FB notifications is really a problem that needs to be solved in their app, not in Android.

You're not wrong. The OS does make it possible for the app to do things that are problematic, though (the facebook messenger head bubbles, whatever they're called, that can obstruct other apps, for example). Gnome notifications are relatively unobtrusive, they can only appear in one place (though I don't like that they can obstruct other apps), and there isn't a culture of every app thinking they have to interrupt you multiple times a day.

It's a team effort, I'd say, though facebook is where I lay most of the blame. I'm just ranting in general about the state of notifications and how insistent and entitled so many apps have become on many platforms, not really calling out specific operating systems or developers (though all the notifications I was complaining about in Windows were from Windows itself and not facebook or the like, so we have to lay all the blame on Microsoft in that case).

Edit: after thinking about it, I don't think the OS should impose good taste (eg to prevent Facebook messenger head bubbles from being really annoying and obstructing other apps), since that would mean apps that legitimately need that ability wouldn't be able to do so. I'd guess Twilight, a blue screen filter app I use and like, wouldn't be able to do it's thing if Android didn't allow apps to operate on other apps display. Facebook just needs to stop being so obnoxious.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

#57

Post by otakucode »

kbenson wrote: post #41
SwellJoe wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, gods, yes. Google Maps has become infuriating lately. I'm interacting with it because I'm trying to get somewhere, often in a hurry or while sitting at a red light or something, and it's popping up random questions that have nothing to do with me. Maps has become a perfect storm of bad timing and inappropriately intrusive behavior.

I assumed it was that way for me because I actually answered a question once or twice, and Google was predictable acting like a stray dog that had been given a full cheeseburger.

I have never answered any of the questions myself, and it begs just as shamelessly. Came with the phone and can't be removed. I suppose I should be thankful I can at least disable its notifications. I really do not comprehend what the thinking is behind various apps being preloaded on a phone and then straight up not being removable. Like... I can't uninstall Facebook? Really? Who thought it was a good idea to have a 'disable' but no 'uninstall' option? I just don't get it.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

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Post by mycomments2017 »

iamaelephant wrote: post #54
dingaling wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not Android nagging at an OS level, that's an app you've chosen to use and to which you've chosen to login. On my phone I receive status-bar notifications a for: new personal e-mail, RSS updates for specific topics, F-droid updates, battery level, storage space critical. The latter two are the only OS notifications I can't seem to suppress.

It doesn't matter that they're not at the os level, they're notifications you'll get on an Android phone as delivered straight from the factory.

I think they should call it 'tech-savvy mode' for users who value concentration, hate distraction, etc.

After all the majority of public (which the sales are aimed at) will enjoy those notifications.

But, software engineering folks who have 'rubbed over' UI's for years time, will probably hate

Re: New Windows 10 Features

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

Developers need to be extremely careful to make sure their lowest target is Windows 7. Nowadays Microsoft is doing everything to make sure the lowest target is Windows 10. Windows 7 is the last traditional version of Windows and there is a huge number of people interested in keeping it this way. Some of us are just interested in getting our work done.

Re: New Windows 10 Features

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Post by kbenson »

otakucode wrote: post #57
kbenson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assumed it was that way for me because I actually answered a question once or twice, and Google was predictable acting like a stray dog that had been given a full cheeseburger.

I have never answered any of the questions myself, and it begs just as shamelessly. Came with the phone and can't be removed. I suppose I should be thankful I can at least disable its notifications. I really do not comprehend what the thinking is behind various apps being preloaded on a phone and then straight up not being removable. Like... I can't uninstall Facebook? Really? Who thought it was a good idea to have a…

I actually heard a good reason for that here the other day. The customized OS portion of Android is on a different, read-only partition, and it's not writable except during reboot on upgrade (or something like that, I'm butchering it from memory I'm sure).

Upgrades can be applied from the application/user data partition, but they stay on the user data side and that's why the best you can do is to uninstall upgrades and disable. Apparently most the providers have gotten better about only including an application stub now that doesn't include the app binaey/data, so usually uninstalling upgrades leaves you with a ~12kb application stub/placeholder.

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