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Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Re: Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Post by tabbott »

ptman wrote: post #46
the_duke wrote: post #37

How does Zulip compare to Mattermost? Anyone got experience with both?

Mattermost is open core. Seems zulip might be as well, but the open source version seems more featureful

Zulip is 100% open source; we're not playing the "open core" game that Mattermost is.

Re: Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Post by rishig »

ptman wrote: post #46
the_duke wrote: post #37

How does Zulip compare to Mattermost? Anyone got experience with both?

Mattermost is open core. Seems zulip might be as well, but the open source version seems more featureful

Zulip is fully FOSS. The project makes money from hosting and enterprise support.

Re: Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Post by icc97 »

donaldguy wrote: post #18
est wrote: post #5

need more screenshots. I want to see exactly where it have done right instead of downloading few megabytes of an electron app.

You could alternatively OAuth sign up for the chat.zulip.org server used for project development and see the feature in action there ( https://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/latest/contributing/chat-zul... ) so long as you kept testing traffic to the `#test here` stream :-)

Minor niggle - but I don't understand you and the github readme point to readthedocs rather than just 'show me the money' of https://chat.zulip.org/

Perhaps you want to give more context, but I did nothing on the readthedocs page other than look for the link.

Re: Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Post by egeozcan »

pknopf wrote: post #47
merinowool wrote: post #44

Is it compliant with GDPR - for example can admin delete all user data at request?

Are companies required to delete employee records?

I can't answer your question but I'd like to note that users are not always employees.

Re: Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Post by haffla »

Zulip is using Python and Postgresql. Is this a great choice of stack for a chat app? I'd love to know how Zulip performs with hundreds of concurrent users.

I am currently looking into Rocket.Chat which is based on Meteor (NodeJS) and MongoDB, a stack which, for me, seems better suited for this kind of app. But hey, I don't know, I haven't done performance tests or anything.

Does anyone know about any hard limits with either Zulip or Rocket.Chat?

Re: Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Post by web007 »

the_new_guy_29 wrote: post #49
geofft wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In busy channels in medium-sized companies, lack of threading is a huge pain: person A says "Hi, I'm trying to do X, how do I do this," person B says "Hi, I'm getting error message Y" 2 minutes later, someone shows up 5 minutes later and says "Have you tried installing this thing" and they were talking to B about solving Y but A tries to install it and use it for X and then everyone is confused and wastes time. Slack…

Why not to use direct messages for the example you gave ? Or even better reply to the message itself which creates semi topic under it ? Also if you have some specific topic you would like to discuss like k8s or linux there should be specific channels for that in a company. You can reply to exact message in slack. Ive been using it for over a year in a company hiring few thousend people and we had no issues you descr…

"Reply to the message itself" is what Zulip does best, and where Slack is lacking. I have to zoom in to a thread to see what's going on with it, I can't just follow the main room and see the tag for a sub-thread interleaved.

It's a filtered event stream, where you have 2 tags, "chat room" and "topic". You can see the full firehose with both tags, or zoom in to a room and see topic tags, or filter to just the topic if needed. Slack won't give you the first option, and does the second poorly since you can't see the topic responses inline.

Re: Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading

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Post by tabbott »

zestyping wrote: post #33

It's really hard to get a sense of how Zulip works without any screenshots or videos anywhere on zulip.org, just general descriptions like "the world's most productive group chat" and "email threading model." The fastest way to find out how it works is to go to https://chat.zulip.org/accounts/login/ and click "Log in with GitHub". They really need to make that path easier to find.

We're definitely planning to provide a slick explanation on zulipchat.com. Using chat.zulip.org is helpful, especially if you visit a day later and read the message history; since you really only experience Zulip's magic properly when catching up on a bunch of unread messages (the `n` hotkey in particular is super great).

That said, https://zulipchat.com/features has a screenshot; and https://twitter.com/b0rk/status/986447131421609985 does a pretty good job of explaining the concept. And https://www.recurse.com/blog/112-how-rc-uses-zulip explains some of how Zulip's model can make a big difference in how an organization communicates.

(I'm the Zulip project leader and wrote the blog post)

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