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Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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On a separate note, I have yet to get Siri to transcribe "Isle of Dogs" correctly. It's always "I love dogs" which is quite ok by me :).

I've never gotten Siri to successfully play "Cuz It's Hot" by "My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult". Also the only place I have the song is "WaxTrax! Black Box: The First 13 Years (Disc 3)", which is also pretty much impossible to get Siri to play. Sigh.

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That's nothing compared to "Okay Google". Try saying that three times fast. Actually, try saying it just once fast. I always end up spitting out something like "Okaygggeellggglle"

It's utterly astonishing that Google still has the hubris not to give it a personal name. People want to believe they're talking to a personal assistant, even if that isn't true, and Google is stupidly stripping them of that.

I think it’s just a branding thing. Notice how e.g. the app is named “Google Chrome” (but not “Mozilla Firefox”).

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On a separate note, I have yet to get Siri to transcribe "Isle of Dogs" correctly. It's always "I love dogs" which is quite ok by me :).

The title of that movie was chosen specifically to be a homophone for "I love dogs", so Siri's confusion is understandable. :)

This is an interesting case because they’re phonemically the same (long-I, L, schwa, V) but may be realised differently phonetically depending on your accent†. I bring this up because I’ve always wanted to be able to tell speech recognition systems specific features of my accent, say through a series of questions (“Do you pronounce ‘cot’ and ‘caught’ the same or differently?”, &c.) in addition to ML training, because as it is, they persistently mix up certain words—“I’ll” and “all”, for instance.

† With “isle of”, I have two syllables and a velarised (“dark”) L in “isle”, a mid-central vowel (/ə/) in “of”; with “I love”, I have one syllable in “I”, a non-velarised (“light”) L and an open-mid back unrounded vowel (/ʌ/) in “love”.

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Yeah, they don't want to give users too much control; Siri is an important brand by itself and Apple doesn't want people going around skipping it.

The non-cynical viewpoint would be that "Hey Siri" is an easy phrase to detect because of how it's said, which isn't really that similar to many other phrases.

“Hey Siri” actually a pretty challenging trigger phrase. It’s short (few phonemes), and it’s phonetically confuseable with phrases like “Hey Serial is out” (could be “Hey Siri all is out”).

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I would love this feature if they found a way to implement it without draining the battery by listening constantly and trying to recognize 'Hey Siri' from all the background noise. It's especially bad when you play music nearby!

Are you sure you’re actually getting your battery drained from this? The phrase spotting happens in a super low power processor which can run without the rest of the phone doing anything.

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Unfortunately “Hey Siri” starts to grate the 70th time you say it in 3 days. I would actually now rather walk across the room to touch the Homepod than have to say the phrase so much. It’s still in uncanny valley territory a lot of the time as it isn’t smart enough to keep context between interactions or react in a human-like way. I think a retroactive activation feature would be the way to go, ie. be able to say “Si…

It could be worse. "OK Google" is annoying the first time you say it.

You can say “Hey Google” now, though it’s not quite as smooth as Alexa.

Re: Personalized Hey Siri

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I just tried 'Hey Siri where is 'Isle of Dogs' playing - and it got it first time.

That’s easier because the language model knows that “where is I love dogs playing” doesn’t make sense grammatically, whereas “where is playing” does. On the other hand, just saying “I love dogs” might be a reasonable thing you may want to text message or something.

You could also give the recognition system an additional hint by dropping in "the movie", "the play", etc. -- "where is the movie 'Isle of Dogs' playing?", "where is the play 'Death of a Salesman' playing?"
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