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In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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That would be a fun position for Obama to take; would he spurn Zuckerberg before or after giving Kissinger the Distinguished Public Service Award? I rail against Facebook, and think it's a dangerous system, but Zuckerberg is a damn saint compared to many of the people Obama and Bill Gates have shown themselves with. And the two are themselves far from .

You are comparing very different things. While I agree a lot of bad people are doing bad things out there, not many if any have the reach and control Zuckerberg does. I wonder if there is a resolution where Facebook can be fixed without government regulations that would likely have adverse effects on the internet at large. I don't even use Facebook and yet I am vulnerable as they doubtless have a complete profile on…

What reach? Surely you cannot compare Zuckerberg to Kissinger - a man who could (and by all accounts did) condemn hundreds of thousands of people to be shot, burned, raped, starved, and tortured.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Facebook’s response to this story is revealing: > "We’re not going to debate the disgruntled litigants and anonymous sources who seek to rewrite Facebook’s early history or embarrass Mark Zuckerberg with dated allegations. The unquestioned fact is that since leaving Harvard for Silicon Valley nearly six years ago, Mark has led Facebook's growth from a college website to a global service playing an important role in t…

Yeah this nice corporate PR > We’re not going to debate the disgruntled litigants and anonymous sources "We're not denying it though. It is true. If they were false and we could debate and win the debate, we would" > The unquestioned fact is that since leaving Harvard for Silicon Valley nearly six years ago, Mark has led Facebook's growth from a college website to a global service playing an important role in the liv…

Zuckerberg was 19 when he made the dumb fucks comment. [2004] I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your point, just saying that this incident took place earlier than you think it did.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Yeah this nice corporate PR > We’re not going to debate the disgruntled litigants and anonymous sources "We're not denying it though. It is true. If they were false and we could debate and win the debate, we would" > The unquestioned fact is that since leaving Harvard for Silicon Valley nearly six years ago, Mark has led Facebook's growth from a college website to a global service playing an important role in the liv…

Zuckerberg was 19 when he made the dumb fucks comment. [2004] I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your point, just saying that this incident took place earlier than you think it did.

Have his actions done anything to show it's not relevant? He lead the company as a young man and is still pretty young.

Reckless disregard for privacy has been a hallmark of his tenure.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Why are the media talking so much about Facebook's mistakes of 10 years ago, while there are much worse problems in privacy at the moment ? Grindr, China's rating system, NSA's algorithm in Pakistan..

Corporate culture changes a lot in 10 years, Facebook is the wrong target.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Yeahh we need regulations on Facebook. The fact that he retains a majority voting share in the company, the fact that I now have zero trust in Zuckerberg AND Sandberg into doing the right thing, AND that there is no viable competition/users are too psychologically entwined to make the decision to detach from Facebook means the only checks and balances left against this unscrupulous individual is the US government. Un…

+1, I have absolutely zero confidence in Zuckerberg and Sandberg. The board should ask them to resign and appoint new people (obviously the most extreme ask from this scenario). As a user, I want facebook to stick around and be more useful to me in the future. Unfortunately I don't see the current people doing that.

Why include Sandberg? Isn't she generally considered a professional grown up providing adult supervision for Zuckerberg?

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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If they lacked the foresight to be born wealthy and enroll in an ivy league college, that's their fault. Cyni-casm aside, yours is a crucial point I think gets forgotten too often. Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. Obviously substantially different crimes, but the c…

> Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. You misread this, likely because that would have made more sense than what actually occurred. The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death…

And even if he misread what actually happened, the point was young people get serious consequences quite often. Why should Zuckerberg be viewed any differently? Either change the system to judge younger people especially minors less harsh or be consistent.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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If they lacked the foresight to be born wealthy and enroll in an ivy league college, that's their fault. Cyni-casm aside, yours is a crucial point I think gets forgotten too often. Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. Obviously substantially different crimes, but the c…

> Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. You misread this, likely because that would have made more sense than what actually occurred. The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death…

> The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death.

What the actual fuck? Then again, I can't say I'm suprised that it's in Alabama.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Yeahh we need regulations on Facebook. The fact that he retains a majority voting share in the company, the fact that I now have zero trust in Zuckerberg AND Sandberg into doing the right thing, AND that there is no viable competition/users are too psychologically entwined to make the decision to detach from Facebook means the only checks and balances left against this unscrupulous individual is the US government. Un…

+1, I have absolutely zero confidence in Zuckerberg and Sandberg. The board should ask them to resign and appoint new people (obviously the most extreme ask from this scenario). As a user, I want facebook to stick around and be more useful to me in the future. Unfortunately I don't see the current people doing that.

As a user, your opinion rarely matter.

Zuckerberg compared to other CEO level executives have a fairly good track record. Somehow his mistakes were not an issue for you for last 10 years and now you have a tough stance against him. What you are buying into now is a form of propaganda where it is fashionable to bash him.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Good for him that he isn't black in today's America.

or rather, good for him he isn't poor? or would a black Harvard student have been prosecuted for this crime?

Here's the harrowing experience of a multi-millionaire athlete at the hands of the police: https://www.theroot.com/video-nfl-player-michael-bennett-ass...

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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On the one hand, this is a very shitty thing to do. On the other, he was young and dumb and FB was very different than it is today. I suppose it could be red flag and indicate larger character flaws that have leaked into how FB operates now, but I'm personally glad I'm not being judged today for everything I did when I was 19.

It's not piss behind a dumpster from drunken night out being judged; it's the core functioning of the business and product.

Or rape an unconscious girl behind a dumpster and get three months in jail.

#BrockTurner

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