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Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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Post by mattzito » Sat, Apr 07, 2018, 9:35 PM UTC

pensativo wrote: post #47

snowwrestler wrote: post #37

For folks who are not aware, there are like a dozen commercial products that already do this. If you sign on with Cision, for example, you can pull an up-to-date list of reporters in any U.S. market, filtered by beat, outlet, channel, topic, etc., and send an email to all of them by pushing a button. Then you can click over to the monitoring dashboard and pull media stats by reporter, keyword, channel, etc. Can't rem…

Does Cision track the entire world in all languages and include blogers ad social media influencers?

Yes.

Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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Post by tzs » Sat, Apr 07, 2018, 10:56 PM UTC

zo1 wrote: post #49

tzs wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That tweet might have been amusing if our President was not a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist (not sure what he thinks about black helicopters). Question for down voters: Can you seriously make a case that he is not a conspiracy theorist?

Well, you stated a claim that seems quite outlandish. Then you edit and question down-voters if they can "seriously" prove you wrong? Unless it's well-known fact or something agreed on by everyone, making such a bold statement would require you to prove your case. Not the other way around.

Theories he has stated or expressed approval of:

• Obama was not born in the United States.

• Climate change is a hoax.

• Ted Cruz's father may have been involved in the Kennedy assassination.

Want more? Just Google for Trump and conspiracy theories, and you'll find plenty of articles covering a bunch of them. Example [1].

> Unless it's well-known fact or something agreed on by everyone, making such a bold statement would require you to prove your case. Not the other way around.

He tweets about this stuff frequently. Those tweets are well covered in the press. So yes, it is well known.

[1] http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-conspiracy-theor...

Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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Post by pasbesoin » Sun, Apr 08, 2018, 3:49 AM UTC

ibeckermayer wrote: post #44

snowwrestler wrote: post #37

For folks who are not aware, there are like a dozen commercial products that already do this. If you sign on with Cision, for example, you can pull an up-to-date list of reporters in any U.S. market, filtered by beat, outlet, channel, topic, etc., and send an email to all of them by pushing a button. Then you can click over to the monitoring dashboard and pull media stats by reporter, keyword, channel, etc. Can't rem…

For folks who are not aware, there is a huge difference between a private company doing something and a government doing something. Government is the institution of violent enforcement, making them much more powerful and potentially dangerous than a PR consulting firm.

You should also be aware that U.S. governments routinely acquire data from third-parties to circumvent constraints in place that prevent them from doing so, directly.

They also sell their own data, when not constrained against doing so. The many state budget crises have apparently exacerbated motivations to do so.

All that said, I can't view this DHS initiative as a positive development, WRT domestic monitoring.

Actually, I can see the point of passive monitoring. And I can't help but believe it's already done. The difference here may be the DHS, specifically, and the public nature -- announcing the initiative. Therefore perhaps also who will have access to the resulting system or systems.

Maybe I'm biased by my news consumption habits, but I worry about politicizing and agendas, when the DHS is involved.

Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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Post by ibeckermayer » Sun, Apr 08, 2018, 5:05 AM UTC

lovich wrote: post #48

ibeckermayer wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For folks who are not aware, there is a huge difference between a private company doing something and a government doing something. Government is the institution of violent enforcement, making them much more powerful and potentially dangerous than a PR consulting firm.

That's only true as long as corporations remain relatively small in power. There has been a definite trend in consolidation of power amongst the larger corporations and if it continues there won't be much practical difference between them or the government

I agree.