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Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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mercer wrote: post #50
feelin_googley wrote: post #46

Its encouraging to be reminded that still not everyone who uses Apple hardware runs MacOS exclusively. https://sivers.org/openbsd http://www.sacrideo.us/openbsd-on-macbook/ However I have not heard any reports of anyone running an alternative OS on iPhone or iPad hardware. With every passing year I continue to think it would be interesting to observe how users would choose if Apple hardware and Apple software were so…

I'm almost certain that your comment wouldn't be greyed out if you hadn't added that last paragraph.

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Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by andromeduck »

michaelmrose wrote: post #45
andromeduck wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be lighter but what does that mean in practical terms if the cost of maintenance is monumental? I think with even just the barest bones practical computer with wifi + with email + browser + compiler and their dependencies is well beyond the scope of what one person is able to audit. You'd need a team of at least 20-30 individuals before that starts making sense.

If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors? Further what if it happened we were unsatisfied with this we could all collectively hire more people to audit the software stacks we rely on in order of priority instead of expecting each person to hire dozens to vet the software they are presently running. Further if only even if we can't ever arrive at 100…

> If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors?

You mean like what Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. already do?

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by feelin_googley »

mercer wrote: post #50
feelin_googley wrote: post #46

Its encouraging to be reminded that still not everyone who uses Apple hardware runs MacOS exclusively. https://sivers.org/openbsd http://www.sacrideo.us/openbsd-on-macbook/ However I have not heard any reports of anyone running an alternative OS on iPhone or iPad hardware. With every passing year I continue to think it would be interesting to observe how users would choose if Apple hardware and Apple software were so…

I'm almost certain that your comment wouldn't be greyed out if you hadn't added that last paragraph.

Comments from me that are skeptical of Apple are always downvoted. Complaining is acceptable but doubting is not. I have tested this over the years and it is remarkably consistent. Its both amusing and sad. The clicks can sometimes take a while to come, sometimes days, but they always come. Whether I add something silly acknowedging this phenomenon makes no difference. They come either way. Its just a small price to pay for being irreverent I guess. I have plenty of karma to spare. Well worth it.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by gsnedders »

nixpulvis wrote: post #8
unstatusthequo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you do? Windows world is worse. So is Android generally. Use Linux? How do you trust that? QubesOS? Pen and paper? If you walk outside, you’re on camera. Living off grid with no phone or computer seals the deal, but not very practical. I’m all about security and privacy, but everything is on balance with practically. If a three digit govt agency wants to find you, they have so many other ways than Apple.

Why not trust Linux? No activation, full control over all the processes. Seems like a good solution for people who "care".

How many distros are shipping with ASLR now? Last I knew there were still major distros that weren't.

Heck, do the common DEs sandbox their search indexing processes yet, given there's been various vulnerabilities there previously?

Yes, okay, you have control, but when nobody implements relatively basic defence-in-depth mitigations that have been available on Windows (especially) and macOS for over a decade it's just sad and undermines the argument that its security is better.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by tinus_hn »

GlenTheMachine wrote: post #27

“On iOS, there is no full-disk or full-volume encryption, only varying levels of file-based encryption...” I don't understand this claim. iOS had full disk encryption starting with iOS 3.0, in 2010. Or at least Apple (and other security experts) says it does: https://darthnull.org/security/2014/10/06/ios-encryption/ Am I missing something here?

The full disk is not very useful though because the disk is automatically unlocked at boot.

Anything you can see after starting the phone without entering your passcode is effectively not encrypted.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by Fnoord »

feelin_googley wrote: post #46

Its encouraging to be reminded that still not everyone who uses Apple hardware runs MacOS exclusively. https://sivers.org/openbsd http://www.sacrideo.us/openbsd-on-macbook/ However I have not heard any reports of anyone running an alternative OS on iPhone or iPad hardware. With every passing year I continue to think it would be interesting to observe how users would choose if Apple hardware and Apple software were so…

> Expecting to take a little karma subtraction [...]

Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by feelin_googley »

Its encouraging to be reminded that still not everyone who uses Apple hardware runs MacOS exclusively.

https://sivers.org/openbsd

http://www.sacrideo.us/openbsd-on-macbook/

However I have not heard any reports of anyone running an alternative OS on iPhone or iPad hardware.

With every passing year I continue to think it would be interesting to observe how users would choose if Apple hardware and Apple software were sold separately.

Would all users choose Apple software?

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by dang »

feelin_googley wrote: post #57

Its encouraging to be reminded that still not everyone who uses Apple hardware runs MacOS exclusively. https://sivers.org/openbsd http://www.sacrideo.us/openbsd-on-macbook/ However I have not heard any reports of anyone running an alternative OS on iPhone or iPad hardware. With every passing year I continue to think it would be interesting to observe how users would choose if Apple hardware and Apple software were so…

Duplicate comments are not ok here.

For a long time now—and an astonishing number of posts—you've been using HN basically to post agitprop. The trouble isn't your opinions—whatever they are, I'm sure plenty of other users agree with them, all of whom manage to use HN just fine. The trouble is that you've crossed into being a single-purpose account, which is not cool. HN threads are for conversations, not agendas. One can't have a conversation with a megaphone.

Since we already asked you once to stop and you don't seem interested in changing, I'm going to ban this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Post by feelin_googley »

dang wrote: post #58
feelin_googley wrote: post #57

Its encouraging to be reminded that still not everyone who uses Apple hardware runs MacOS exclusively. https://sivers.org/openbsd http://www.sacrideo.us/openbsd-on-macbook/ However I have not heard any reports of anyone running an alternative OS on iPhone or iPad hardware. With every passing year I continue to think it would be interesting to observe how users would choose if Apple hardware and Apple software were so…

Duplicate comments are not ok here. For a long time now—and an astonishing number of posts—you've been using HN basically to post agitprop. The trouble isn't your opinions—whatever they are, I'm sure plenty of other users agree with them, all of whom manage to use HN just fine. The trouble is that you've crossed into being a single-purpose account, which is not cool. HN threads are for conversations, not agendas. One…

Its not a duplicate. @mercer suggested the last paragraph should be removed, so thats what I did. Alas, the edit period had expired.

Edit: Notice that youve toned down your original reply, which had statements like "No one cares about your opinions about Google, Apple or Facebook." It seems I have agitated you. I apologise.

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