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Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Post by watwut »

thevardanian wrote: post #32
skybrian wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisers don't actually want to spend time picking YouTube channels individually. But they will complain if YouTube runs their ads against the wrong content. They have threatened to leave before. [1] Picking channels that are good for advertising is a service that YouTube does for advertisers. [1] http://www.businessinsider.com/why-advertisers-are-pulling-s...

Just out of curiosity how much leverage do advertising companies actually have?

Apparently a lot? I remember reading that it truly hurt google when there was last major big deal about ads under isis videos. The ad pricesta went down a lot as nobody wanted to pay.

Ad quality I am getting (long cheap ads on companies unlikely to be rich) confirm that.

Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Post by mediaman »

thevardanian wrote: post #32
skybrian wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisers don't actually want to spend time picking YouTube channels individually. But they will complain if YouTube runs their ads against the wrong content. They have threatened to leave before. [1] Picking channels that are good for advertising is a service that YouTube does for advertisers. [1] http://www.businessinsider.com/why-advertisers-are-pulling-s...

Just out of curiosity how much leverage do advertising companies actually have?

All of it. It's where nearly all their revenue comes from. There's no remaining business without the ad sales.

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Post by imglorp »

_m8fo wrote: post #34

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There is some research that says the traditional tipping point for revolution is hunger. It seems people put up with a lot of shit, perhaps with misplaced optimism, until their stomach is affected.

Maybe there's an analog to other tipping points, like price of internet service, but food seems pretty emotional and primal.

https://www.salon.com/2014/05/09/real_life_hunger_games_soar...

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Post by _rpd »

mozumder wrote: post #30
jonny_eh wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same result. People will get pissed off when they get categorized in a way they don't like, resulting in less money.

What YouTube needs are editors. Editors get to tell people that their content is garbage or great. The problem with social media is that they don't have people telling the public that their ideas are crap, so everyone thinks they're important.

Why not start an edited competitor?

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

_m8fo wrote: post #34

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I think the matter is subtler than plain inequality. What do you do when there's a mass distribution channel controlled by a private entity? Radio, press, they've been criticized, protested against, and in most democratic countries have ways to be held accountable to its citizens. We're largely living in a world where this isn't the case anymore. How do citizens demand accountability over a private service?

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Post by Alupis »

snarkyturtle wrote: post #27
pnutjam wrote: post #2

Yet another licensed and legal weapon.

Luckily it was just a handgun. If it were an AR-15 it might've been a different story, as this radiologist who treated Parkland students noticed: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-...

I think you meant to say, if it had been a rifle. AR-15's don't posses special properties... anything shooting a .223 or 5.56 round will have similar properties.

The damage truly depends on the type of ammunition used (as well as caliber). FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) ammunition, what seems to be described in the article you referenced, is a non-expanding type of ammunition, typically causing less destruction than expanding types such as HP (Hallow Point), which flatten and expand on impact.

Muzzle velocities from a rifle are significantly higher than handguns, which does translate into more kinetic energy. The additional energies in a rifle cartridge will cause more shock damage to organs, as described in the article, however.

HP ammunition (not commonly used in rifles) is designed to be devastatingly lethal - specifically designed to leave very large wounds in the target, which have little hope of closing/repairing the wound.

Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Post by zaidf »

mozumder wrote: post #30
jonny_eh wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same result. People will get pissed off when they get categorized in a way they don't like, resulting in less money.

What YouTube needs are editors. Editors get to tell people that their content is garbage or great. The problem with social media is that they don't have people telling the public that their ideas are crap, so everyone thinks they're important.

Sounds like what fb was doing in determining what news stories to feature. We saw how that turned out (they ended up largely abandoning the editorial team.)
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