Live data from Hacker News

Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

torrentfreak.com

51–60 of 121 posts

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike victims of gun crimes, the victims of copyright violation have the money and lobbying power to effect change.

No, unlike gun owners and manufacturers, software developers have no effective lobbying organization and get treated liked 2nd class citizens. No one fears angering software developers before an election.

I agree with you (regarding gun owners as a protected class) and I believe our two claims are complementary rather than adversarial.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#52

How is it that software makers are culpable when their product us used to commit a crime but not gun manufactures? Is it that copyright violation is such a "heinous" crime that special rules apply?

One has a Constitutional amendment. The other doesn't. Also, gun owners are better organized than content consumers or technologists.

There's no constitutional amendment protecting gun manufacturers from being sued. Only a law.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks fine to me: https://github.com/plexinc/plex-home-theater-public

My mistake, I was getting it confused with their use of FFMPEG: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/141186/possible-gpl-violat... https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/141186/possible-gpl-violat...

Even that is ok. I even found a App that used Ghostscript that way (a bigger one) And the Ghostscript guys said it's ok. You can basically just replace the Transcoder with newer versions by just putting a new dll/exe there, which makes it gpl compliant.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#55
post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

I thought about having the software auto auto-rebrand itself when a non authorized addon is installed. It's a pain I know, now kodi addon developers need to sign addons. But I'm sure they can automate it somehow.

Require addons and kodi itself not to hardcode the Kodi name/brand (even in logos/addons titles, etc.), if an unauthorized addon is installed kodi replaces all the kodi brand with a generic name, the harder to google the better, something like "Media Player" sounds generic enough.

But I'm sure these box sellers would just "create" custom skins/addons and put the kodi brand there just to spite the developers.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#56

How is it that software makers are culpable when their product us used to commit a crime but not gun manufactures? Is it that copyright violation is such a "heinous" crime that special rules apply?

Unlike victims of gun crimes, the victims of copyright violation have the money and lobbying power to effect change.

Unlike victims of gun crimes, the victims of copyright violation do not need to contend with a fundamental right to effect change.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#57
post #45

How is it that software makers are culpable when their product us used to commit a crime but not gun manufactures? Is it that copyright violation is such a "heinous" crime that special rules apply?

Whether one agrees or not, Google is within their rights to remove Kodi from their autocomplete product. Whether one agrees or not, Dick's Sporting Goods is within their rights to remove partial/all (can't remember what they did exactly, honestly) gun sales. So they're not really all that different. Kodi isn't considered culpable for people using it in a bad way here, just Google is removing it from autocomplete in a…

Nobody is talking about weither google is legally allowed to do this, stop conflating legality with morality.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike victims of gun crimes, the victims of copyright violation have the money and lobbying power to effect change.

No, unlike gun owners and manufacturers, software developers have no effective lobbying organization and get treated liked 2nd class citizens. No one fears angering software developers before an election.

> No, unlike gun owners and manufacturers, software developers have no effective lobbying organization

They just haven't been clever enough to organize their own customers, or some other mass front, politically the way the gun industry has.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Equally sad as the existence of the terrible Kodi piracy boxes is that the legitimate set top box/"smart TV" industry is completely ignoring it. I'm not aware of any TV manufacturer building Kodi into their product, instead they invent their own junk, which is usually much worse. Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

Actually there was Boxee. Which made a fork of XBMC which was used in the Boxee Box made by D-Link. The fact that know one even remember it besides me seems to point out why not a lot of others have followed.

I used to have a Boxee years ago. It was an awesome little device.
Post reply on HN