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Re: Lytro is winding down

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Just wondering, which DSLR in particular?

The Canon 5D mk IV has what’s called Dual Pixel RAW. Here’s a video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQ9MSRRvn4

DPRAW doesn't use a light field, it's a stereo image.

Re: Lytro is winding down

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So Google didn’t buy them? This always struck me as a tech Apple would want in their phones, at 4MB though, apparently not. Also for a very large company, $40 million isn’t a lot.

Since iOS 11 depth data is exposed in portrait photos allowing the focus point to be altered. It’s very effective. You need an app though because it’s not possible in the Photos app (yet?) e.g. Focos https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/focos/id1274938524?mt=8

Apple bought PrimeSense - the company that owned the depth camera technology used in MS' Kinect - in 2013. I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone uses a descendant of the Kinect.

Re: Lytro is winding down

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"You didn't have as strong of a desire to change the world" That's a rather dickish thing to say. Especially because, as we've seen time and time again, very, very few of these startups are actually "changing the world". More and more, being asked to join a startup is just being asked to overwork yourself for peanuts and then be screwed out of equity.

Thanks for pointing this out, I can see where what I wrote could be misinterpreted. What I meant was the full sentence. GP specifically wasn't interested in what Lytro was building strongly enough to take the pay cut. Agree the "we're changing/disrupting the world" meme gets misused. I'll make an edit for clarity. Disrespect was not my intent. Edit: the edit window on my original post just closed.

Ok, I understand what you mean now. I will still go on record as saying that, regardless of how strong you believe in something, you shouldn't take pay cuts to do it, especially given the record startups have for shafting employees. One really only has about 40 years to earn all the money they're going to earn, and that time can go by rather quick.

Re: Lytro is winding down

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I really wanted to like my Lytro camera, and I was willing to put up with its hardware limitations, but I could never really trust it as a means of taking pictures I cared about so long as they were stuck inside Lytro's proprietary ecosystem.

Re: Lytro is winding down

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Media tries -- and is able -- to do a lot more than it did in the past. e.g. as terrible and annoying as linkrot is, most webpages are able to reach an audience far larger and far more disperse than what could be served by any library or printing press. Nevermind having the passive/latent feature of being cheaply and (hopefully) perpetually archived by services like Internet Archive. The Lytro embeds, unlike physical…

The Internet Archive capture of that page should have working embeds now: https://web.archive.org/web/20170317183900/http://www.thever... They take a little while to load once you click on them; it's dozens and dozens of files. The data for the embeds may still exist on Lytro's CDN, if you know the UUID for the image, and could be rescued and rehosted. After they shut their hosting service down last year, I crawled e…

You're awesome.

Edit: is there a reason why I can't download the torrent? Is it not available as a Torrent anymore?

Re: Lytro is winding down

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The Internet Archive capture of that page should have working embeds now: https://web.archive.org/web/20170317183900/http://www.thever... They take a little while to load once you click on them; it's dozens and dozens of files. The data for the embeds may still exist on Lytro's CDN, if you know the UUID for the image, and could be rescued and rehosted. After they shut their hosting service down last year, I crawled e…

You're awesome. Edit: is there a reason why I can't download the torrent? Is it not available as a Torrent anymore?

I just tried the first batch as a torrent and it worked fine for me. Note that IA torrents are hosted as web seeds, so if your client doesn't support that, you won't have any seeds.

Also note that I don't think the hosted versions can be imported back into the Lytro Desktop software, if that's what you were hoping for; they're just stacks of JPEGs, JSON metadata, and the depth map data.

Rehosting an individual embed should be pretty straightforward, just replacing the CDN URLs with relative or absolute ones to wherever it's been rehosted (or to Wayback Machine URLs). I'll be writing up some details at some point, but don't wait on me.

Rehosting an entire user's "pictures.lytro.com" gallery was trickier than that, I don't think I was able to get it working locally.

Good luck.

Re: Lytro is winding down

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Media tries -- and is able -- to do a lot more than it did in the past. e.g. as terrible and annoying as linkrot is, most webpages are able to reach an audience far larger and far more disperse than what could be served by any library or printing press. Nevermind having the passive/latent feature of being cheaply and (hopefully) perpetually archived by services like Internet Archive. The Lytro embeds, unlike physical…

The Internet Archive capture of that page should have working embeds now: https://web.archive.org/web/20170317183900/http://www.thever... They take a little while to load once you click on them; it's dozens and dozens of files. The data for the embeds may still exist on Lytro's CDN, if you know the UUID for the image, and could be rescued and rehosted. After they shut their hosting service down last year, I crawled e…

This needs to be a Show HN, not just a reply to my buried comment.

Re: Lytro is winding down

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it's not a DSLR, but some recent Panasonic mirrorless cameras have this https://www.panasonic.com/global/consumer/lumix/feature/post...

This isn’t really all that comparable to the Lytro - this is effectively a hack that takes advantage of some Panasonic camera’s ability to shoot 4K jpeg bursts at 30FPS - it racks the focus as it shoots a burst so you can pick from a range of focus points. The subject can still move noticeably in between shots, it’s not a single shot style solution like the Lytro has. I have a Panasonic m43 camera with this feature a…

Yes, it's just focus-bracketing and that's as close as any non-Lytro cameras come to the Lytro feature as far as I'm aware

Reading a description of the Canon Dual-Pixel sensor feature https://www.canon.co.uk/cameras/eos-5d-mark-iv/dual-pixel-ra... ...it does not seem that it allows to adjust focus after the fact. It's something different again from Lytro and focus-bracketing.

As far as I can tell what it does is to capture depth information into the RAW file. I don't see how it could allow refocusing, but the examples show it allows you to selectively mask areas of the image based on distance from camera.

So you can sharpen 'just the eyes' if you slightly missed focus on them. Or selectively blur the front/back out of focus areas to get a stronger bokeh effect.

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