Only thing I want to know: did he sign an NDA?
All employees sign NDAs when they join any tech company that I’ve ever heard of. Even contractors. So, yes.
Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I seriously feel like I’m missing something here, why isn’t Facebook fully behind getting to the bottom of this? Going back even further, why was it so difficult for them to even admit they had a problem during the election? I don’t think it’s as simple as “more money,” but maybe as simple as people too close to the problem and too enamored by what they’ve created?
Because the "breaches" and "abuses" aren't breaches or abuses, it's Facebook's business model working as intended.
Exactly, and sites like Reddit make money on the same sort of thing. It wasn't controversial when Facebook and Google became arms of the Obama and then Clinton campaigns, but now more people are turning on Facebook after learning that their info was sold to the Trump campaign and companies and so on through companies like CA.
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#53Stamos had been actively engaging with security researchers on Twitter over the past few days about CA with heated discussions: > I have deleted my Tweets on Cambridge Analytica, not because they were factually incorrect but because I should have done a better job weighing in. https://twitter.com/alexstamos/status/975069709140877312 Archive of those deleted tweets: https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/975078309930311…
Wondering what he thought would be him doing "a better job weighing in"? It seems like his deleted tweets were apparently too honest? i.e. in arguing that there was no data breach, he argued that FB's API and TOS allowed (without oversight) for all app developers to do the kind of data harvesting Cambridge Analytics did? That was well-known by developers, but I guess it's different stating it as an official policy.
Essentially admitting that the amount of information harvested was not unauthorized but rather by design.
Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I seriously feel like I’m missing something here, why isn’t Facebook fully behind getting to the bottom of this? Going back even further, why was it so difficult for them to even admit they had a problem during the election? I don’t think it’s as simple as “more money,” but maybe as simple as people too close to the problem and too enamored by what they’ve created?
Because the "breaches" and "abuses" aren't breaches or abuses, it's Facebook's business model working as intended.
Exactly this. This is not a one-off. This is exactly what Facebook exists to do.
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#55I’m sorry but show me even 10 voters nationwide who were going to vote for Hillary, and then saw a Russian-created fake news post on Facebook and changed their vote to Trump. This Security Chief was clearly upset that his candidate lost, but blaming Facebook or the Russians is ludicrous. It seems that they attempted to influence the election, but there is zero evidence that they were successful in changing the outcom…
You don’t need to flip the voters, just get them to not show up, and get more republicans to show up. This isn’t about politics, this is about buisiness interests, and professional reputation.
Some examples of ads using this technique:
http://amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2016/11/03/text-vote-hillary-...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-2016-e...
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the "breaches" and "abuses" aren't breaches or abuses, it's Facebook's business model working as intended.
How? Facebook doesn't get paid when app-developers access users, do they? Wouldn't facebook make more money if CA was forced to go through FB's ad-targeting systems instead of CA's own offsite ad campaigns?
CA may have created retargetting lists and segmented users out to create target lists and lookalike audiences.
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#57There's breaking reporting that Facebook just had personnel in the Cambridge Analytica offices before the UK authorities could get there with warrants. https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/975844154361221121 > BREAKING: Facebook WAS inside Cambridge Analytica's office but have now "stood down" following dramatic intervention by UK Information Commissioner's Office.. https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/9758…
I seriously feel like I’m missing something here, why isn’t Facebook fully behind getting to the bottom of this? Going back even further, why was it so difficult for them to even admit they had a problem during the election? I don’t think it’s as simple as “more money,” but maybe as simple as people too close to the problem and too enamored by what they’ve created?
>>I seriously feel like I’m missing something here, why isn’t Facebook fully behind getting to the bottom of this?
Simple: stock price. Even now, FB stock is down nearly 7%. So Facebook will try to limit the damage as much as possible until it is no longer to do so. After that, they will "fully cooperate" with the authorities.
Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation
#58I’m sorry but show me even 10 voters nationwide who were going to vote for Hillary, and then saw a Russian-created fake news post on Facebook and changed their vote to Trump. This Security Chief was clearly upset that his candidate lost, but blaming Facebook or the Russians is ludicrous. It seems that they attempted to influence the election, but there is zero evidence that they were successful in changing the outcom…
From the CEO of Crambidge Analytica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=164&v=mpbeOCKZFf...
Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation
#59I’m sorry but show me even 10 voters nationwide who were going to vote for Hillary, and then saw a Russian-created fake news post on Facebook and changed their vote to Trump. This Security Chief was clearly upset that his candidate lost, but blaming Facebook or the Russians is ludicrous. It seems that they attempted to influence the election, but there is zero evidence that they were successful in changing the outcom…
This is the elephant in the room. U.S. based interests spent billions to influence public opinion here and abroad.
But less than $1 million spent by a Russia media organization (to maybe attract viewers?) and some trolls tossed the election? I’m more than skeptical.
This is a distraction campaign if here ever was one.
Re: Facebook Security Chief Said to Leave After Clashes Over Disinformation
#60I’m sorry but show me even 10 voters nationwide who were going to vote for Hillary, and then saw a Russian-created fake news post on Facebook and changed their vote to Trump. This Security Chief was clearly upset that his candidate lost, but blaming Facebook or the Russians is ludicrous. It seems that they attempted to influence the election, but there is zero evidence that they were successful in changing the outcom…
You don’t need to flip the voters, just get them to not show up, and get more republicans to show up. This isn’t about politics, this is about buisiness interests, and professional reputation. Some examples of ads using this technique: http://amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2016/11/03/text-vote-hillary-... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-2016-e...
Does propaganda work or doesn't it? The idea being pushed that since it does, only approved propaganda should be let through. Trump winning is proof that there's a need for regulation of propaganda.