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Re: Developer Survey Results

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Post by mseebach »

jedberg wrote: post #5

With all the talk of Vim vs. Emacs, it surprises me that Emacs is in the low single digits, while Vim is 25% of all respondents. It does not surprise me that it is 40% (and #1) amongst sysadmin/devops practitioners.

Vim seems to be default installed on most Linux distributions, and Emacs isn't. If your work takes you across Linux servers, you're 99% sure to be "a Vim user" (in some capacity), regardless of what your daily programming environment is.

I prefer Emacs to Vim, but I prefer Idea for Java development over either, so since I mostly work on java projects on Linux servers, I actually use Vim significantly more than Emacs.

Re: Developer Survey Results

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Post by Rotareti »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #11
jedberg wrote: post #5

With all the talk of Vim vs. Emacs, it surprises me that Emacs is in the low single digits, while Vim is 25% of all respondents. It does not surprise me that it is 40% (and #1) amongst sysadmin/devops practitioners.

it pleasantly surprises me that VS Code is leader in pretty much all Dev categories. I love VS Code.

I personally don't consider vim as an editor, to me it's rather an editing engine, which can be used for Editors/IDEs. You can activate the vim engine in Emacs, VSCode, IntelliJ, etc. I think it's the most powerful text editing engine out there.

VSCode does a pretty good job implementing the vim engine, IMHO. They integrate neovim directly [0]. The plugin has almost 2 million downloads, btw.

I think the future of vim is not "vim the editor", I think it's "vim the engine".

I guess this is also the reason why Vim is so much higher than Emacs in the stackoverflow survey.

0: https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/issues/1735

Re: Developer Survey Results

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Post by koolba »

antirez wrote: post #12

Cool to see Redis to be in top position. For what is worth, Redis confessed to love developers, so it is definitely a reciprocal feeling. Btw surprised to see "contributing to OSS" at ~50%. Looks like an incredibly high number (cit. Trump), so would be awesome to see this question more fine grained next time. This may be an indirect measure of all the work that goes into OSS to make it sustainable. I would like to se…

> Cool to see Redis to be in top position.

For those of us using it for many years now, it’s not surprising at all. Thanks antirez!

> I would like to see: kind of contribution (Opening issues, PR, managing a project, ...) and average hours spent per week.

StackOverflow could infer quite a bit of this by cross referencing the demographics from their survey results (assuming it’s not stored anonymized) with public profile information from GitHub.

It wouldn’t reflect the whole picture but, for a lot of major projects that are hosted there, one could see the engagement vs usage ratios.

Re: Developer Survey Results

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

The "Platforms" answers are hard to believe, or let's say it's hard for me to believe that they are remotely representative of the overall developer population.

18% claim to have done development work for macOS. That's more than for iOS, which is neck and neck with Raspberry Pi.

What's going on here? Have web devs simply checked all platform boxes?

Re: Developer Survey Results

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Post by conradfr »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #56

The "Platforms" answers are hard to believe, or let's say it's hard for me to believe that they are remotely representative of the overall developer population. 18% claim to have done development work for macOS. That's more than for iOS, which is neck and neck with Raspberry Pi. What's going on here? Have web devs simply checked all platform boxes?

It's also really strange (to me) how no PHP frameworks or CMS made the cut.

Re: Developer Survey Results

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

conradfr wrote: post #57
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #56

The "Platforms" answers are hard to believe, or let's say it's hard for me to believe that they are remotely representative of the overall developer population. 18% claim to have done development work for macOS. That's more than for iOS, which is neck and neck with Raspberry Pi. What's going on here? Have web devs simply checked all platform boxes?

It's also really strange (to me) how no PHP frameworks or CMS made the cut.

WordPress is up there at 16%

Re: Developer Survey Results

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Post by ify »

wiz21c wrote: post #31

FTA : > Race and Ethnicity > Sexual Orientation Could we agree that : 1/ a coder is a coder, no matter his color, his sexual orientation, his whatever 2/ the notion of "race" is problematic at best And before I get down voted : who cares about a statistic about sexual orientation or ethnicity in a survey about IT ? I mean honestly.

Thank you for pointing this out. I don't see the relevance myself.
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