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Henley Passport Index – The number of countries holders can travel to visa-free

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>How expensive/difficult/limiting is it if you need a visa for a lot of locations? That depends. If you go somewhere like Thailand, you fill one-page form, glue your photo and send passport, said form and 40 dollars in envelope to consulate, then pick it up on your way to airport. If you go somewhere like US or EU - that's kind of humiliating. You pay ridiculous fee, fill long form on terribly designed website, trave…

The EU one is Schengen to be precise. UK and Ireland have a separate visa process and the Schengen visa also gets you into some non-EU countries (e.g. Iceland).

UK visa process is even worse than Schengen.

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.. but it does go away if you don't maintain a presence of some variety in the given countries.

No it doesn't. You may lose right of abode but you are unlikely to lose your citizenship.

Simply not true, at least in my case. I haven't been back to my country-of-birth in over 30 years, and have citizenship in the country of my childrens' birth. When the time came to renew my passport, I was informed that my citizenship in my birth country was dependent on whether I had any connection there any more, and since my birth-country has policies regarding dual-citizens needing to justify their citizenship, this was under question. I needed to either go back and live there for a while, or simply give up my citizenship.

Maybe its different in your birth-country and with your citizenship, but its not true that its automatically given and never revoked in every country in the world. Its a case-by-case basis, depending on the policies of the nations involved.

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

You are lucky. I hold a Chinese passport, which is one of the worst when it comes to visa restrictions. The only upside I is I never make any visa mistakes - it’s hard to find out last minute you need a visa, when you need visa to practically anywhere! Every international trip requires careful planning in advance. What countries I am visiting? What kind if visa should I get? When is the consulate open? Is there still…

I have an Indian passport I know how you feel. It’s 2018 and just entering a country can be so difficult!

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

You are lucky. I hold a Chinese passport, which is one of the worst when it comes to visa restrictions. The only upside I is I never make any visa mistakes - it’s hard to find out last minute you need a visa, when you need visa to practically anywhere! Every international trip requires careful planning in advance. What countries I am visiting? What kind if visa should I get? When is the consulate open? Is there still…

I have a Kenyan Passport. Every country I visit, I need to file a visa.

I can’t imagine the grief of someone from Afghanistan. I think about that and laboriously file the visa and play the waiting game.

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You are lucky. I hold a Chinese passport, which is one of the worst when it comes to visa restrictions. The only upside I is I never make any visa mistakes - it’s hard to find out last minute you need a visa, when you need visa to practically anywhere! Every international trip requires careful planning in advance. What countries I am visiting? What kind if visa should I get? When is the consulate open? Is there still…

The worst part is that the visitors visa issued by most of these countries expires after mostly 6 months. So you wanna visit the UK again with an Indian passport after your last trip in July? Tough luck; go through the whole process again.

Is that common? My tourist visa to Brazil lasts 10 years, which is standard I thought.

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

> How expensive/difficult/limiting is it if you need a visa for a lot of locations?

Overlanders crossing Africa can spend up to 2000€ in visas alone. (And that’s with an EU passport.) Plus, not only is visiting consulate after consulate a hassle, but the visa application and issuing process is slow enough that it can sometimes take a week or two just before you are able to move on from one country to the neighbouring one.

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Got source? The vast majority of countries either a) insist you renounce all other citizenships on naturalization, whether it's one or three, or b) don't care how many you have.

Some will allow dual citizenship, but place conditions that make it difficult to get more than one. E.g., German citizenship law allows dual citizenship if: > If a child born to German parents acquires another citizenship at birth (e.g., based on place of birth [birth in jus-soli countries mostly of the Americas], or descent from one parent [one German parent and one foreign parent]). In theory somebody could have tw…

Your information is incorrect because of many reasons.

1. EU and associated countries (e.g. Switzerland)? Germany does not care

2. Other countries? Give reasons, get a permit.

3. German dual citizenship law does not make any statements how many citizenship you can have.

4. There are countries that do now allow citizens to renounce, e.g. Iran.

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post #27

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.. but it does go away if you don't maintain a presence of some variety in the given countries.

No it doesn't. You may lose right of abode but you are unlikely to lose your citizenship.

Actually, he is right about the Netherlands. https://ind.nl/en/dutch-citizenship/Pages/Loss-and-the-revok...

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Some will allow dual citizenship, but place conditions that make it difficult to get more than one. E.g., German citizenship law allows dual citizenship if: > If a child born to German parents acquires another citizenship at birth (e.g., based on place of birth [birth in jus-soli countries mostly of the Americas], or descent from one parent [one German parent and one foreign parent]). In theory somebody could have tw…

You could add a fourth under certain conditions: Say one parent is German and the other is British, and the child was born in Brazil. If the kid is entitled to Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return, they get to keep all four.

Not quite - the law of return would lead to a renouncing of German citizenship.
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